ThunderCats Episode 21 "Birth of the Blades'" OFFICIAL TALKBACK THREAD!

I think it has been missing a little on the action side, but this episode really brought some back. When they do fight in this show, it’s great! I just wish, like you, it would be more often. The only problem for me is I really enjoy the story, and if more action means less story then I might not like it as much.

One thing I think will help this 100% is…Lynx-O. He was more of a martial artist (I think) and if he gets introduced it could really help the fights be more interesting. But, like I said, this episode had a good amount of action, and it only seems like it will be on the rise from here.

This talkback thread is not even close to being as talkative as last week’s!

Its great to see Mumm-Ra and Lion-O’s conflict reach a new level. And I really liked how Lion-O handled both Kaynar and Addicus: Dealing with crazies? Go even crazier!

What bugged me was why did Cheetara and Tygra give each other a disgruntled look to each other after Pumyra spoke?
Was what she said offended them? Or they simply found her more of an annoyance?

And Lion-O and Pumyra…YES!!! She is truly his foil, and in positive ways, and their romance is building at a reasonably steady pace. And especially their last scene together. This really has a much more dynamic romance as opposed to Cheetara’s and Tygra’s.

To Elaborate: It isn’t driven by a childhood attraction (while a working story point) and seemingly not very much conflict as how it is with Cheetara and Tygra.
With Pumyra and Lion-O we all know how rocky their start is, and perhaps that has proven to be the best for them.

^^^100% agree with you.

I think they got that little look because he is will to go along with her plan in spite of how bad it is and how badly she treated him. They can see how easily Pumyra’s gotten under his skin. They both know that now ther’s serious competition for his ear and they might not be able to be as convincing to him as she is.

I’m not disagreeing, but wasn’t Lion-O taught in the trials to listen to other cats instead of just doing what he thinks is right?

Anyway, I think she’ll only become more competition if she starts developing more of a relationship with Lion-O. However, I think she learned her lesson in this week’s episode to not try to go against Lion-O.

Lynx-O was the oldest Tcat in the team by far.Also he was blinded right before the trio tried to escape Third Earth’s destruction.Due to that he honed his other senses and elevated them to the point of having almost a ‘six sense’.
I don’t think he is the ideal member to show action and fight scenes!! I believe Panthro fits better your description hammy;)

They could always change his story. He didn’t seem too old in the pilot.

6? Again? You are on a sixspree :thumbsup:

In what manner of “gotten under his skin” do you mean? As in " She’s upsetting him and calling him out on his rank", or “possibly trying to use him” or “He is doing this to impress her because he likes her and she might know this” ?

I can see how she is becoming serious competition for his ear, because while yes she started off being antagonistic towards him, it was really driven out of anger and feeling betrayed under the assumption that their leader “abandoned them”. But now she has learned the truth : He’s combating Mumm-Ra for the safety of both cats and all animals. And her being upfront with her feelings and opinions and thoughts is very very good for Lion-O and very well the entire team.

Cheetara is wise and calm and very observant but really soft spoken and really keeps things reserved. Even when she revealed she was at Lion-O’s side was because Jaga asked her too. So aside from her saying that she finds him “different” what are really her views and opinions of Lion-O?

Tygra, we all know his deal and angst with Lion-O. Panthro put it best when Lion-O temporarily died with “You wanted to be king well now you are.” My quote of him may be wrong but you get the idea. Even though, yes, his brotherly love pulls through, but at his core, he wants to be king.
Even in myths, legends and even real life accounts, brothers come to dangerous extremes and possibly murder over some monetary inheritance, over women, and in some cases, power.
After the trials and Native son, Tygra seems to have eased off, and acknowledged Lion-O as his king, but there may be a resurgence of his desire to be king.

Panthro, he’s very tough and a very serious cat, and a well seasoned fighter and he is very observant and has noticed Lion-O’s potential and his growth into a leader. You see this since Panthro has been at his side more and more as his apparant Advisor and possible 2nd in command. Even Lion-O acknowledges advice Panthro has given him and tells Pumyra what he advised him when they were in the mine. Panthro even showed more concern and questioned Lion-O and Pumyra over their plan of buying them time so they can get away. Where was Tygra butting in and saying " Little bro! its too dangerous for you to go alone! Im going with you ! "

Even though Pumyra initially came off as an antagonisitic character, she has been very brutally REAL with him. There’s been no timidness on her talking to him about her passionate anger and growing acceptance of him. She even spoke to him how she likes his compassion, and touches his face.

Bottomline: Pumyra is really becoming epic, and showing a good pace of character development.

He is listening to the other cats, in fact he listens to Pumyra and goes with her plan (which, admittedly, isn’t perfect, but it’s better than “lead Mumm-Ra and an entire army to a pocket of defenseless slaves” especially when it’s the only other plan anyone offers). But even though he’s come out of the trials a better man Lion-O still isn’t infallible, and he proves that in giving the sword to her. It was, quite simply, a mistake but it’s one that would be very easy for anyone to make in that situation. Hopefully now he’s learned that he put a little too much faith in Pumyra, and she learned that she can put more faith in him.

Now it is time to see all three episodes back to back to back.

I agree with Solace316. Pumyra’s development in the NS is possibly better than any of the other cats.

Yeah they should change him like you said. In to a ninja like character.

Did anyone else get the feeling that the ancient Cats from the flashbacks thought Mumm-Ra was a good guy when they first started working for him? It occurred to me when Leo said something like “He’s not the leader I thought he was.”

I think Leo though that. I also think they were evil from the start.

I think Leo believed Mumm-Ra to be a savior as well.

Yeah, it seemed that way. You’d think you could trust a giant demon-bat. Huh… :confused:

Yes indeed. It makes you wonder what “chaos” that Mumm-Ra was seeking to restore order to. I thought Panthera’s line about this was brilliant…“His pursuit of order has brought nothing but chaos.”

I have the feeling that the animals are creations of Mumm-Ra’s, given his general view of them as puppets and subjects, and they probably followed him unquestioningly as one would a bad father. I too was surprised that Panthera was the one who started Leo on the path of rebellion, I would have thought it to be the other way around based on “Legacy”.

I interpreted Cheetara and Tygra’s shared look at just grimacing because they felt it was a bad plan.

Well, maybe the should have come up with one rather than standing around giving disapproving looks.