"Omens" (special one-hour series premiere) - Official Talkback Thread! (CONTAINS SPOILERS!) :)

Ick! Don’t like your new avatar. Bad Mumm-Ra. Bad! :stuck_out_tongue:

I think it makes a lot of sense that he gets hurt by sunlight. Think about where mummy’s are kept, it dark tombs, unexposed to sunlight. It also makes me think of Orcs and Urukai’s and Trolls in Lord of the Rings. None of which are vampires, but are evil and do not like sunlight. So it’s not a “vampire” thing. It’s more an “evil” thing. And Mumm-Ra is the “ever-living” source of “evil.”

I’m wondering that too.

Oh. My. God!!!

For all the issues, all the problems I had with the original Thundercats show, this new series addressed them all. Whenever I talk about how and what I hoped Thundercats would be, this is what I meant. To the letter. It was big, it was epic, it was mythical, and there is thoughtfulness here that could never be found in the old show. It wasn’t campy or goofy, and there were no facepalm-inducing moments of insanity. Pretty much all the impressions I had about it were on the money; and I think this really will be kind of like what the new Battlestar Galactica was to the old one, and that it’ll be kind of a Game of Thrones for the younger set. I think this is really going to be a big hit for Cartoon Network, and will attract fans of all ages.

I have always said of the old show that it had a lot of great potential that went unrealized and was wasted. But now, Thundercats has finally reached it, and it does my heart good. :slight_smile:

Also it might bear mentioning that this was the kind of tone Ocelli and I were going for in our story. No, this clearly isn’t Space Opera, but that’s actually probably all for the good. Ultimately however, this is the kind of story we wanted to see more or less…at least in terms of tone.

Just some things I liked:

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[li]Lion-O is a much more relatable and admirable hero here. He’s noble and just, but he’s not annoyingly self-righteous about it. And he’s far from being a doofus, too. That he’s kind of a techno-geek I thought was also a nice new wrinkle to the character.[/li][li]I loved the full orchestral score. Made everything appropriately epic. It definitely ain’t lounge music, that’s for sure![/li][li]Liked how they made the Thunderians a bit more flawed, and that they aren’t quite as noble and just as they’ve made themselves out to be. The vaunted Code is nowhere in evidence, and that’s kind of a good thing to me. Flawed heroes are always much more interesting, and I like that everything isn’t quite so black and white like in the old show.[/li][li]I like how all the characters are more fleshed-out and well-defined, and that we’re given proper introductions to them. The old show didn’t really have much in the way of characterization, especially with Tygra, Cheetara, Kit and Kat. But here, they just really pop. I also like how there’s even conflict among the more heroic characters (especially between Tygra and Lion-O) and I’m looking forward to seeing more of them.[/li][li]I like that Kit and Kat are being played by real kids this time out, rather than by adult actors pretending to be kids. That plus I like how they acknowledge their link as brother and sister. I especially liked that Kat addressed Kit as “sis.” That’s something I always wanted to hear him say.[/li][li]Like how they showed the Sword of Omens being used as goddamned sword for once and actually using it in combat. Of course, this being aimed at a younger audience, they couldn’t show blood or dismemberment. But they got the point across well. And in the larger sense, I like how unlike the old show, they’re not afraid to show death - or at least strongly imply it. When you can’t show the consequences of violence or how evil and dangerous the villains can really be, there’s no dramatic tension at all.[/li][li]Snarf. Love the design, and that he doesn’t talk. This of course gives Kit and Kat the opportunity to fill the comic relief vacuum, which I think they’ll do very well and much better than Snarf ever did.[/li][li]I like that there’s hints of Third Earth perhaps being post-apocalyptic, and that technology is something of a myth. (The junk shop Lion-O was in also kind of reminded me a bit of the Fallout games, by the way) It raises some interesting questions. Again, it is really our Earth? Are the Thundercats and reptilians mutations or the result of forced evolutionary experiments? It’ll be interesting to see as the true nature of what Third Earth is is gradually revealed to us.[/li][li]Loved the entrance of the mechs, as well as the reptilians brandishing their laser rifles. Yep, I should have seen that Trojan Horse play there.[/li][li]Mumm-Ra. Loved his entrance. Also loved that they pretty much kept to the classic design (he still looks like the twin brother of Eddie, Iron Maiden’s mascot). It’s a great look and they wisely didn’t mess with perfection.[/li][/ul]
And that’s pretty much it. If there’s anything else I forgot, I’ll be sure to bring it up later. But man, I’m really loving this so far, and I’m firmly on board with this show! :thumbsup:

I gotta say, I am absolutely in love with this new Thundercats, I used to watch the original and I think this is vastly superior. Though I do agree with people on the fact that some bits seemed a bit rushed. Though the fact that Lion-o doesn’t have that idiotic stomach hole in his outfit make it better on that alone. I mean who is he, Huntress? What was the point of that bit?
And I gotta say, I was never a big fan of Snarf, but I adore this one, he’s so adorable, and making faces at his reflection and getting startled when the horn blew were brilliant.
Oh, and here’s a little present to all the Cheetara lovers on here like me.
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Oh, small question, where exactly did Lynxo appear?? I must of missed it.

It’s pretty common for even family members who fight viciously to set that aside against a common threat from outside. Family infighting is far too important, can’t let each other die from silly things like wars.

Y’know, for some reason I kinda’ assumed that all the clerics were cheetah-type by default and Jaga was just an exception by virtue of being Jaga. I doubt that it’ll ever be clarified one way or the other, though!

I think Snarf sounded like Wilykat.

Jus’ sayin.’

I thought it was pretty realistic. A lot of siblings have a bit of rivalry going on, but when push comes to shove they’ll have your back. I think that’s what’s going on between Lion-O and Tygra, especially the scene where Lion-O stands up for the Lizards. Tygra doesn’t agree with Lion-O, but when the mob threatens Lion-O, Tygra is all “Oh HELL No!” Basically, don’t **** with family.

So much to talk about, but I don’t even know where to start. I absolutely loved that show it even exceeded my expectations. I had some friends over to watch it with me (One a fellow classic fan, 3 that never saw the original) and we all enjoyed it immensely. I really can’t wait for next week.

Excellent overall. Just two things that were bothersome or disappointing…the abrupt call and Mumm-Ra’s rather unimpressive voice and intro. He just came out of nowhere considering the way they talked about him as being gone forever or something. I hope they shed more light into it later, whether he was resurrected or his whereabouts prior to the invasion.

Guys

I can’t find anywhere to watch the episode

I woke up-dug my laptop out and thought I would go back to my youth and watch thundercats.

I live in the uk but can’t find anywhere to watch it-has anyone had any luck??

Major disappointment

PM sent :smiley:

The Lynx-O cameo… he looks so great!
http://fotos.subefotos.com/09446e59cd06de142ad4c87c21eb999eo.jpg

The new version of the Plunndarian War Robots:
http://fotos.subefotos.com/d63fb4fe42f82948905483f15689875eo.jpg

Oh nicely done combining those, so now that panning shot was doubly worth it lol.

I really like it so far, I love the new versions of wilykit and wilykat, omg they’re so adorable.

I’m also digging the Anime style designs too.
One thing I am confused about is the change of Lion-O and Tygra being brothers, is Tygra adopted into the Royal family caused he called the King “Father” but he looks nothing like him unlike Lion-O who looks exactly like his father.

I so hope to see Pumyra and Bengali in the future, especially Bengali cause I totally love him and I hope they design him super cute and sexy and keep him as a blacksmith.

You may have gotten this in a Pm but I will answer this here as well just in case anyone else missed it to.

Lynxo was in the guard tower when the Invasion began. A warrior was looking through a spy glass commenting on something he saw in the distance. Then Lynxo steps and and takes a sniff. he then proclaims that he knows just what that smell is. It’s Lizards!

I always thought it unusual (fantastically brilliant but unusual) to make a blind man the “Look out” He was by far the most Bad@$$ ThunderCat. Especially with his pressure point technique. Thinking back I wonder if it was Lynxo who taught Lion-O that hand grab he used against the thugs in the opening street fight?

Lynxo showing up as a guard was pretty :cool: and as I’ve mentioned before, having the story set on one planet will set things up for some great cameos.

Despite being skeptical going in, I actually really enjoyed it. Two thoughts:

First, Third Earth doesn’t appear to be Earth. It looks like it’s in orbit around Jupiter, which means it’s probably Europa or another watery moon. I guess they’re going with the literal interpretation of “Third Earth”, the third place to have been called Earth rather than a third epoch. If it’s far enough in the future, and the Sun has gone all Red Giant, then Jupiter and its moons might sit at a habitable distance.

Second, did anyone else think that the exchange between Lion-O, Claudus, and Jaga about Claudus losing faith in Lion-O was an homage to “Telepathy Beam?”

Omens
Claudus: You will remain here.
Lion-O: He’s lost all faith in me, Jaga.
Jaga: What is important is that you do not lose faith in yourself.

Telepathy Beam
Lion-O: You’d better stay here, Cheetara. […]
Cheetara: He’s lost faith in me, and I don’t blame him. I’ve lost faith in myself.

Am I grasping at straws? :slight_smile:

I’m hoping for more than just cameos! The way the story is set up, there’s no reason why 3 certain thunderian refugees can’t eventually show up and join with team lion-o. I would like to think that Lynx-O’s appearance was there to assure us that the door for those 3 characters is open.

Just watched it again at it was even cooler than seeing it the first time (no crappy commercials).

-I agree with most people that Lion-o is, so far, the best character. Most of the time shows screw this up by not balancing their hero. I love Avatar, but Aang was always too stubborn for all parties concerned.

-I also picked up on the eternal rivalry between lions and tigers.

-I disagree that Mumm-Ra’s voice is completely mediocre. Classics fans may be used to the gargley fare, but most kids these days wouldn’t swallow that. It’s too hokey and over the top. Mumm-Ra’s new voice has just enough malevolence.

-That’s definitely a Berbil arm.

-Loved how they portrayed the death of Clawdus (sp?). All they had to do was show his face. I also agree that having Mumm-Ra be his killer makes him more menacing that he could ever be in the OS.

-This is how Snarf should have always been.

-Cheetara is hot and sexy. There, I said it.

my personal review.

despite having those same old cheesy and boring dialogs, I really liked the new story they’ve built and the way they’ve started developing the characters, so that’s a great improvement. but my only major dissapointment comes from the music department. I think that in comparison to the old show it just fails on every term. one of the main reasons I was so hooked by TOS was the way the music had an impact on the mood of the viewers. everytime you heard the score you immediately knew the state of mind of the characters involved, and it helped you understand them better and it sunk you into the story. on the new show it just sets as a background sound.. and at times it disrupts the viewing experience as it sounds like some cheesy hollywood soundtrack to some low budget sellout wannabe.. so for me.. if the the old show’s premiere got 90.. this one gets 68.. but I am still definately gonna continue watching it.

Hi folks,

First time poster here. I’ve been lurking on the forum for some time now, but finally registered the other day.

I loved Thundercats back in the day. I was in college when the show was on air, but that didn’t stop me from watching regularly.

I’ve been anxiously awaiting the return of the 'Cats for the past several years since the rumors began floating about. I’m so thankful we managed to avoid the ‘rock band’ incarnation that didn’t happen. And, now, I am so thankful for what we did get.

I watched the premiere late last night. We had company over, so I had to wait until they had gone home before I was able to watch. So, I think I started around 12:45am - which is well after my usual bedtime!

I loved the new show. I think it was incredibly well done. It was respectful enough of it’s source material, yet it was it’s own thing and original enough to remain full of surprises amidst the comforting familiarity.

Cartoon Network always makes me a bit nervous with their scheduling. I hope they keep Thundercats on at the same day and time and allow it to build an audience. I’d love to see this show go on for some time!