Well what we seem to know so far is that 52 episodes were ordered. The show is not cancelled YET, but it has not gotten it’s season two confirmed YET either. Even if two seasons were ordered, they still dont have to start making the second batch if the first batch was “bad”.
Very true. We’ll just have to be patient.
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…but you know, there’s no nails in the coffin at this point. It’s not over. I haven’t heard a definitive like, ‘it’s over.’
He didn’t exactly say the words “not cancelled” but it’s close enough. He does talk about it in past tense, but I took as the production has wrapped up for the first season and it’s a wait and see from then on.
In regards to Sym-Bionic Titan, 52 episodes were never ordered for that series, and it wasn’t a property that focused heavily on toy sales. Sym-Bionic Titan ratings were terrible, ThunderCats ratings are not.
Dan didn’t say it was continuing, but he didn’t say it was canceled either. What he said was that they haven’t made a decision yet and that there are people behind the scenes still fighting for it.
So anyone who says it’s canceled are still wrong, because that decision hasn’t been made. And until that decision is made it’s officially in hiatus. It’s still up in the air.
“I haven’t heard a definitive ‘it’s over,’” is not even close to “it’s not cancelled.”
Moreover, one who believes he is involved in an ongoing project does not think or speak of the project in the past tense when he is only halfway through.
Furthermore, one who believes that a project is ongoing does not use the present as a point of reference from which a reboot of the project would be possible.
Except whether the ThunderCats series continues has nothing to do with how the show performs and everything to do with how the toys perform.
He didnt use the words “not canceled” in that interview, but he did on FB about a month or so back. A show isn’t canceled until it’s canceled.
Just remember when we didn’t have the Internet, no one panic’ed on waiting for new stuff it just happened. 85/86/87 each had its waves of seasons/toys. Its just Tcat’s isn’t going 5 day’s a week, so it doesn’t look as big and impressive as the orginal but with the strenght of its fanbase and the drive of collectors it will allways live on.
This is part of the problem since the show is much more plot-heavy and arc based rather than almost completely episodic like the 80’s show. Watching it weekly robs it of some of the flavor because you forget little details between watchings, but if you see it in several large chunks everything makes a lot more sense. I know I keep bringing up, but it’s only because it’s such a great example: The Sword of Plundarr arc plays out very much, not like a television show, but a film that has been cut into three parts or four parts. Sometimes if you miss an episode it’s really hard to get up to speed with what’s happening.
[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]See what has me wearied is the number of viewers watching it. The Public viewing numbers stop at episode 12 for some reason. The reason I focused on the views is tv cannel’s make their money by selling air time for commercial based on the expended number of people that they think are going to be watching at that time, there are other factor like the demographics the show is aiming but for the most part it the number of people watching the show.[/FONT][/SIZE]
I guess we were listening to different interviews then 
In my opinion, you would think that the production crew would be the first to be told to wrap up what they’re doing and move on to the next project. If he had said that, I would take it as a project that is completely done. However, that isn’t the case.
Differing opinions, so I’ll just leave it at that.
Except ThunderCats does not follow this model. Warner Bros. is not making money from advertisers, it is making money from the license with Bandai. This means that total viewership is not important if it does not translate into toy sales.
Why would you think that? Warner Bros. ordered 26 episodes and Studio 4°C delivered 26 episodes. It is not as if the next 26 episodes are already in progress and Warner Bros. needs to notify Studio 4°C right away to halt production. The show-runner for Community was fired and he was not even notified. He found out because his replacement was announced in the trade papers.
And for nearly a decade, Clone High was confirmed to not be cancelled, just on “extended” hiatus. then, status was switched to cancelled.
Legend of the Seeker was put on haitus before being cancelled yet the staff kept confirming it wasn’t going to be cancelled.
Just because staffers say a show isn’t in trouble doesn’t mean the show isn’t in trouble. It’d be the height of ignorance for staff to say ‘yeah, the show is tanking and will more than likely get canned’ and while Dan Norton is one ignorant mook, he doesn’t strike me as that ignorant of a mook.
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I noticed that as well.
The thing is, many people refuse to see the forest through the trees so they will refuse to even entertain the idea that the Thundercats ship is sinking because the Crew couldn’t navigate the waters.
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In regards to Sym-Bionic Titan, 20 episodes were purchased with another 20 that were in discussion. The whole reason SBT went under was because of lack of toy sales. Heck, Genndy Tartakovsky was very vocal about toy sales being the exact reason the show went under. The fact that CN cut the show due to toy sales is one of the reasons Tartakovsky left CN and went to Sony Picture Animation.
What ratings were you looking at? Sym-Bionic Titan had really good ratings (often hitting 2.0/10 and better while ThunderCats often struggkles to break 1.6/8) and a large fan following that didn’t decrease as the episodes continued to back that up.
As a matter of fact, after the show was cancelled, the fans showed their support by sending in petitions and starting letter writing campaigns to get either new episodes or re-runs to air.
How exactly do you know where WB is making their money? Do you read their financial reports or something? Was it said in an interview? Please do tell.
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That, to this day, confused the heck out of me. Lack of toy sales? They never made any toys in the first place, so how could they sell them? If toy sales were the reason the show didn’t continue why didn’t they just start making toys?
What are you new? Bernard Loomis developed the model in 1969 and it has been the model used for nearly every co-branded animated series and toy line since 1984. We are not reinventing the wheel here.
That still doesn’t explain it.
So your saying that because someone did something in the late 60s that automatically means they’re doing it the exact same way now?
Actually, that is not at all what I said, but I understand that deliberately misrepresenting what I did say makes it easier for you dismiss it, because it is represents a reality that you do not like.
I’d say we can’t say for sure what the future has in store for Thundercats.I think at this point it’s 50/50,the continuation for the Series, it will depend…Well i am thoroughly thinking what are the factors it depends to…
The show is generally considered great and has got positive reviews, apparently this isn’t enough for WB. It’s still a wait and see sitaution
It sounded to me like your reasoning was that Thats where WB gets their money because lots of other shows get their money that way too. My point is that’s not actually knowing how WB is getting their money. That’s just making an educated guess based on what others have done.
Do we have any hard data or estimations of how well the Bandai toy line is selling comparable to other market choices? Or is it all based on our individual trips to the local Target and trying to gauge the relative movement of merchandise?
On a side note, the Target around me is running full-length commercial ads for the Book 2 DVD. Saw it this morning on one of their store monitors.