Ebay doesnt do jack squat, about these kinds of things. They made it so the buyer/collecter get screwed now. All that ebay cares about is the money its bringing in not that people are being screwed and there not policing it.
Ive seen that auction as well, and that one doesnt smell right either, only taking money orders for it no paypal etc, cant take better pics.
Matt, eBay would lose significant profits if they operated the way you claimed. If they made it so that the buyers/collectors get screwed in the process, the buyers and collectors would turn on eBay and eBay’s profits would be nonexistant. Find below an excerpt from the hidden ID for items over $200 from Rob Chestnut, SVP Global trust and safety so that you can see why eBay operates the way it does:
"Safeguarding Member IDs (SMI) is a significant step forward in protecting eBay’s bidders, who have increasingly become targets for unwanted commercial and malicious spam, such as phishing, spoof, and fake Second Chance Offers.
SMI adds a new layer of privacy by replacing specific User IDs with aliases (bidder 1, bidder 2, bidder 3, etc.). To ensure buyers continue to feel trust in the bidding process, SMI also provides an updated Bid History page with aggregate information about the bidders involved in a given listing, as well as their other recent activity with the listing’s seller.
Coming this week: eBay.com and eBay Canada to Launch SMI
Following SMI’s introduction last fall on eBay Motors, our eBay sites in the United Kingdom and Australia also made the decision to launch SMI. The results we’re seeing for all three launches indicate that these changes are having the impact we are striving for – in short, a reduction in unwanted commercial and malicious spam (including Fake Second Chance Offers) to bidders on higher-priced auction-style listings.
As a result eBay.com and eBay.ca will be launching SMI later this week. SMI will impact listings on eBay.com that start at or reach a bid level of $200 or greater. On eBay Canada, it will impact listings above the C$220 level. Please read our Safeguarding Member IDs Frequently Asked Questions for more information.
Community Concerns
I’d like to acknowledge the concerns we’ve heard from some members who believe these changes may encourage shill bidding (the act of using friends or alias User IDs to bid on a seller’s own listing to artificially increase the bidding level.) First, let me make it very clear that shill bidding is not tolerated on eBay. Not only is this activity prohibited by our policies (read our shill bidding policy), it is also a crime in many states.
In addition to the Bid History changes I’ve described above which are designed to give buyers the information they need to feel confident, it’s important to know that over the years, eBay has invested heavily in shill detection systems. We can proactively detect and investigate possible shill bidding scenarios with a higher rate of accuracy than ever before. These backend systems collect more information on selling and bidding activity than our Community has access to, so we can detect patterns and ascertain identities much more accurately."
Ebay may be looking out for the best interest but in every law that is made or rule that is made someone out there will exploit the weaknesses and get away with stuff. It’s not a perfect world and its up to each and every buyer and seller to provide its own personal means of protecting themselves. Can’t blame Ebay for everything and we can go all day putting blame on someone or thinking something is fishy but in the end i truly believe that what goes around comes around. For every good you do you will good in return and for every bad thing you do you will receive the same.
"Safeguarding Member IDs (SMI) is a significant step forward in protecting eBay’s bidders, who have increasingly become targets for unwanted commercial and malicious spam, such as phishing, spoof, and fake Second Chance Offers.
SMI adds a new layer of privacy by replacing specific User IDs with aliases (bidder 1, bidder 2, bidder 3, etc.). To ensure buyers continue to feel trust in the bidding process, SMI also provides an updated Bid History page with aggregate information about the bidders involved in a given listing, as well as their other recent activity with the listing’s seller.
Coming this week: eBay.com and eBay Canada to Launch SMI
Following SMI’s introduction last fall on eBay Motors, our eBay sites in the United Kingdom and Australia also made the decision to launch SMI. The results we’re seeing for all three launches indicate that these changes are having the impact we are striving for – in short, a reduction in unwanted commercial and malicious spam (including Fake Second Chance Offers) to bidders on higher-priced auction-style listings.
Funny that it now has the opposite effect with me. I no longer trust to bidding on the high end items anymore due to these new rules. When I did before I never had an problems with being targetted to with fraudelent offers. It just makes shill bidding easy is all and achieves nothing else.
Community Concerns
I’d like to acknowledge the concerns we’ve heard from some members who believe these changes may encourage shill bidding (the act of using friends or alias User IDs to bid on a seller’s own listing to artificially increase the bidding level.) First, let me make it very clear that shill bidding is not tolerated on eBay. Not only is this activity prohibited by our policies (read our shill bidding policy), it is also a crime in many states.
This is all fine and dandy, but he doesn’t say here, how exactly they plan to stop shill bidding! I mean downloading music for free of the net is illegal, but folks still do it. Same applies to shill bidding on Ebay if you ask me.
Until they can guarantee that shill bidding isn’t taking place, I’m done with the high end Thundercats MOC’s.
You and me on the same boat. Sucks when a colelction is at a standstill. Loooks like i will never own a LL Mumm-Ra unless someone is kind enough to take generous but yet affordable offer
Speaking as a long time seller, and one has just sold a very high ticket Thundercats item, what could a seller do to convince you no shill bidding is going on? Let me rephrase that… what could we do to convince you that we are not involved in the shill bidding? (I can’t possibly stop the games some people will play with each other just to make sure someone else pays more)
Hmm splashpage, this is an interesting idea. How about putting an edit in the auction when new people bid with ids and feedback scores. Or be open to people asking you who the bidders are. But I think the first one is best, even though it could get tedious on your part (as a seller), but I think that it would make better relations with bidders as they can then see who is bidding on something and make a reasonable assumption then if they want to bid on it, and possible get you as as seller more bids’
There are numerous Ebay sellers out there that are very honest people. I have lucked out in that I have’nt really had but two bad Ebay experiences but I have also seen my share of bids that dont look to be honest. I can believe certain items going for high amount, good example is the TW Lon-O and LL Mumm-Ra but when a common item sells for outrageous amounts then it gets suspicious.
There’s nothing really a seller can do to make people believe they are honest sellers. Each and every individual makes that decision by looking at feedback and communicating with the sellers. I always say that what goes around comes around and anybody that does shill bidding is only hurting his or her business. I dont and will refuse to bad mouth sellers, if there is no solid proof then why bad mouth a seller? But I will give my opinion on what looks out of the ordinary.
The problem there is I now think there is an assumption of anonymity on the parts of the bidders, so some may view it as an invasion of privacy to do that. I think Manny hit on something though, on some items, you can just assume they really are going up that high (such as our TW Lion-O did).
On our part, I can tell you until I’m blue in the face we do not, and will not, sell unlicensed goods and do not engage in shill bidding, but it’s up to the buyers to believe us.
I agree shill bidding is a problem, and I want to see it end, but I am clueless as to a practical way to stop it. As a seller, it saddens me to see people saying that people are going to stop bidding until they feel it’s over, because the actions of a few are, understandably, hurting the reputations of all of us.
i do agree that certain items should bring about fantastic sales, and that there are a lot of honest sellers out there more so than dishonest ones, but other items following trends shouldnt be making what they are. But we can argue about this all day long. Long story short people have to check feedback and ask questions etc. etc. to protect themselves and if something doesnt look right go with your gut, it will always come around again.
Ebay is good at what it does - bringing buyers and sellers together. In that respect, it’s no different from your average car bootsale held in a muddy field at the crack of dawn. Without it, my collection would be very thin and most of my other stuff would still be languishing in the loft.
However, like any marketplace, the buyer should exercise common sense - ‘caveat emptor’ as the Romans used to say - ‘Buyer beware’. If an item looks too good to be true, then it usually is.
On the other side of the coin, if people are willing to pay overblow prices for items, then the phrase more money than sense comes to mind. It’s their choice - no one is forced to bid. And know your limits - if you can’t afford to pay top wack, then don’t outprice yourself, because if it’s a popular item, you can bet your bottom dollar that others will be bidding on it and you’ll soon get pushed out of your affordable price range.
Having said that, yes, there are people out to make a fast buck - but show me a marketplace where that isn’t the case. I’ve been fleeced at bootsales and legitimate open air markets. It doesn’t only apply to the internet.
As for anon bidding, frankly, it discourages me. I can see why it is done - on a number of occasions, I’ve been contacted after a sale has ended and been offered similar goods. In such cases, I’ve used my good old friend the ‘delete’ key. Why do people find that so difficult? :?
Just want to make it clear, splashpage that my comments were not geared towards you when I said I’m done with the higher end items. I’d probably make an exception with regards to your Luna Lasher Mumm-Ra auction.
However the reason I can’t bid on this particular auction is because I know how high it will go and honestly can’t afford that kind of cash right now.
But yes, Ebay’s new rules do put buyers off and not everyone seller takes the time out to talk about their high end items on a forum like you have.
What is up with the price of MOC figures
Hey guys I was just on eBay and I am wondering can anyone tell me what is up with the MOC figures some of them I mean a MOC Panthro is going for 1,150.00
Did you mean the one that ended a few days ago?
anyone see this? I forgot to bid but was watching it as I need it for my minis collection. But the price is insane, the times I have seen it its never gone past 10 even with box
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140146872639&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=004
I never saw one like that!
And every time something unusual regarding the Thundercats comes along on eBay it always reaches “wow” prices! 
Prices ARE definitly down!
A Young Tygra and a BenGali (Both loose incomplete) in what looks to be pretty good shape just went for $22.75!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200202618525&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010
Looks like its a good time to be a buyer, not so much a seller.
:tygra: :bengali:
I just merged your message with an existing thread, I do agree that is a buyer’s market. There’s so many Thundercats stuff that is either not selling or is selling for cheap
I have a theory…I think that people bought the UK Thundercats comics here in America many years after their printing as well as the UK annuals (like I did) fell in love with the storylines.
Since Stinger is such an oddball character but one of the last of the LJN series of action figures… everyone wants it. It had such a limited release her in America to begin with and the toy wasn’t very robust like the Driller. As soon as Stinger was taken off of the card the toy didn’t stand a chance it broke too easily (wings) and I’m sure it went in the garbage/garage sale pile as soon as junior was too old for his toys.
I had a chance to buy one European MOC for $300.00 and I didn't. Regret gnaws at me even now!
The thing that gets me is why they even made a Stinger, and Thunderwings. The UK comics are the only place where they were seen!
I would have liked to see Willa, Nayda, Snarfer, and Mandora. A Mandora with Electra-Charger two pack would have been wonderful!
Wow!! Look how much this is going for.
Wonder if its cause it is the red variant? I’ve always thought the orange Lion-o w/snarf was easier to find.