Warner Bros. vs. Rankin Bass character design breakdown - Panthro

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Note - I’ll be referring to the 80s series Panthro as the “RB (Rankin Bass)” Panthro and the new series Panthro as the “WB (Warner Bros) Panthro”
I won’t be referring to picture orientation (top vs. middle or bottom) but it should be obvious which one I’m referring to.

[SIZE=“3”]Garments[/SIZE]

As you remember the RB Panthro had garments resembling blue suspenders (but so we don’t neuter Panthro’s coolness, I’ll reference the suspenders as a tank top) with silver spikes, with a thin section wrapping around the back that attached to the outer edges of the tank top at the front. The tank top attaches to a belt encasing his emblem around the hips which also extended into a blue loin piece. The new WB Panthro does have subtle hints of this (his garments resemble the tank top in the front, with the spikes, and he does have a belt with the emblem area in the same section). However the differences are noticeable and striking. The suspender appearance ends at the shoulder in the front, and the garments completely cover Panthro’s back in the WB series, making it almost more like a spiked vest. The spiked vest is also noticeably reddish brown in color, a departure from the rich blue of the tank top on the RB Panthro. The spikes on the WB Panthro’s vest stop at the shoulder and do not continue around to the back as they did in on the RB Panthro’s tank top (not pictured but will upload one). As for the belt, the three key differences appear to be: 1) it is silver and metallic looking on the WB Panthro vs. the blue on the RB Panthro, 2) the emblem area appears somewhat smaller on the WB Panthro vs. the size of the emblem on the RB Panthro, 3) The belt itself appears like it could be removable (by the circular pieces beside the emblem area) and is not one piece with the WB Panthro’s combat pants the way the RB Panthro’s belt appeared to be 1 piece with the loin section.

Extending to the arms, the only features on the RB Panthro is a thin white band he wore on his left arm just below the bicep but above the elbow, and a silver metallic looking wrist band with a single row of rounded studs on his right wrist. The WB Panthro has much more lower arm decoration. It’s impossible to tell from either image of the WB Panthro whether he is wearing combat gloves with a furry section at the top near the end of the forearm, or if the fur on his forearms is his natural fur as it appears to match color wise with his sideburn hair. On second inspection of his left hand holding the nun chucks it the black section on the bottom of the forearm between the leather straps and around the outer edge of the hand does not appear furry, which is evidence that it is a glove piece and the fur at the top is part of the glove, not part of Panthro. The gloves themselves on the WB Panthro extend up the hand and forearm, stopping just short of the elbow. The top portion of the gloves have 3 reddish brown flat leather looking sections, each containing two medium sized spiked studs. There are 4 additional spikes on each finger knuckle (there does not appear to be one for the thumb as evidence by the exposed thumb around the nun chucks in his left hand). There are two leather straps that extend around the bottom of the black glove section, and the gloves have holds for the fingers and thumb to extend through. The WB Panthro does not appear to be wearing anything asymmetrically as the RB Panthro did with one thing arm band and one wrist band on opposite arms.

Finally down to the feet, we see the blue ninja footies (don’t know the actual term for them, but ninja footies sounds cool) and bare thighs and knees of the RB Panthro have been replaced by black combat pants and spiked footies of the same color pattern as WB Panthro’s gloves and wrist pads (although there appears to be no furry section at the top of the footies, and they appear to be entirely the same brownish leather looking material as the glove and wrist pads, and his vest. There appears to be two rows of two spikes on the shin section, and another row of two spikes across the top of the foot. One final note, it appears there is both a hole in the back where his bare heel is exposed, along with the front of his foot slightly past the arch.

[SIZE=“3”]Weaponry[/SIZE]

The fire and ice clawed nun chucks the RB Panthro wielded have been carried over extremely faithfully into the new WB Panthro’s hands. The only key difference is the metal piece at the top where the chain would attach. In the RB series it was a very small piece attaching at the base of each shaft, and each half was comprised almost entirely of the red or blue shaft and claw. In the WB iteration, the metal chain attaching piece extends much farther up each shaft (visually it appears to be a little less than half way up each shaft from the base where the chain is attached). Additional projectile or other capabilities of the nun chucks for the WB Panthro, similar to the RB Panthro’s nun chucks, are unknown at this time as it is impossible to derive from either image.

[SIZE=“3”]Panthro[/SIZE]

Panthro’s face over went one of the more drastic design overhauls. The RB Panthro was completely bald, with very large Spockish ears (the only ThunderCat of the original four adults with exposed ears). He had very prominent black eyebrows, large burnt orange eyes, a wide nose, and a large whitish blue patch around his mouth area (Note – barely visible are two very thin whitish blue areas around his eyes). The most striking change to the WB Panthro is that he has side burns. The side burns appear to possibly be part of a “skullet” as he may have longer hair reaching around the back of his head. The WB Panthro is still bald on top. The WB Panthro’s separate whitish blue sections around the mouth and eyes on the RB Panthro are now one larger patch on the WB Panthro. Both the WB Panthro’s nose and exposed ears are significantly smaller than his RB counterpart.

Moving onto the torso and extremities, both iterations have the giant whitish blue chest and midsection area. The WB Panthro’s chest section appears to extend up the neck and into his fact patch, while the RB Panthro stopped at the top of the pectorals. The back and the legs of the WB Panthro are completely covered by the vest and combat pants in both shots, so it is unknown if he differs in markings there vs. the RB Panthro. While the RB Panthro was completely void of fur, the WB Panthro, like Tygra in my other review (and the remaining two ThunderCats we’ll see next) has been drawn with slight “fur” texture to his appearance, visible on his arms.

Two other noticeable differences are the scars, and the right eye on the WB Panthro. While there were no physical blemishes on the RB Panthro, the WB Panthro has what appear to be rather prominent scars on his body: 1) small scar vertically down his face around the right eye, 2) large diagonal scar across the outside of his right shoulder, 3) a somewhat smaller looking scar on the front of his left shoulder, and 4) a giant one diagonally across his chest starting somewhere at the top of his right pectoral. WB Panthro’s right eye, the same eye as the small scar, is discolored (light gold vs. dark brown for the other). This appears to hint at physical damage to that eye, but it is unknown at this time if there is any sight impairment as a result. One final difference is the WB Panthro appears to be significantly larger both in height and build than his RB counterpart. He appears to tower over the other three ThunderCats in the smaller shot from the new show, whereas all four ThunderCats were much closer in height in the RB show.

[SIZE=“3”]Final Thoughts[/SIZE]

While I’m not crazy about some of the aesthetical changes to this character (the skullet look), the increase in his physical size make him the specimen of the group to behold. This coupled with the updates to his look (the spiked gloves and footies, and the combat pants) make it more apparent in the WB iteration that he is indeed the hand to hand combat specialist and the muscle of the group. Gone are the refined ninja like physical attributes and they are replaced with a rougher, rugged, bar room brawler appearance for Panthro.

First off, I’m a fan of the costume changes. While I thought Panthro was cool looking in the 80s, more and more he seems like he’s in S&M in is down time with his spikes and straps and everything. I like the new color, I like the diminished size of the spikes. I like the removal of the spikes on back as Thunder tank should have fewer holes in the seats.

Not a fan of the physical changes to Panthro. Honestly in the one where he’s standing behind the other cats, he looks like an ape, not a cat. I’m also concerned about the over size of Panthro as I mentioned in the other thread about relative sizes. I don’t have a problem with him being bigger… He should be bigger. But in the one picture he look enormous compared to the other cats.

So, love the outfit, not sold on the physical changes. If he’s more in line size wise with the other cats (see the picture of the action figures) then I’ll be better with him. Still not a fan of the skullet.

The new Panthro design reminds me more of a locksmith/mechanic than the original Panthro. I LOVED the RB Panthro; he was the ThunderCat that shouted out “bad ass” from the very first episode.

I think with the whole war veteran perspective of the new Panthro, his personality may be one of being a mentor to “Prince Lion-O.” I think the original series, all the ThunderCats were technically mentors…but that’s pretty much going to change in the new series.

The sideburns don’t bug me, but they don’t really bring out any anything interesting either.

Great job on the comparisons Grune :slight_smile:

Again, an awesome work in the comparision of the two versions, specially considering that we still don’t have completely clear images of the new versions, only those “teasers”.
I might be the only one who really loves the new design… I see a lot of improvement in it.
Again, the “superhero” feeling was replaced by a more “cyberpunk” oriented one. I’m fine with that, it begins to say something about the direction intended for the new series.

I’m going to start Cheetara tonight, but she won’t be finished probably until tomorrow. I don’t want to stay up as late as I did for Panthro. I’ll also be doing one for Snarf as well since he was recently shown.

I like both Panthros but I’m not a fan of the mutton chops on the newer version as well. Although, I think the redesign does make people know who is who and type of character they are at a first glance.

Great comparisons!

No comparison. The original Panthro will always be the best and in my opinion one of the greatest character designs ever.

The new designs are more my style so far. But one of my favourite original designs is Panthro. Obviously the combat, hand to hand expert his look also made his martial arts background apparent. New Panthro lacks that, he looks like a brute brawler. What I really do like about the new design is that he is far more intimidating, and knowing that Panthro will always be a softy deep, deep down, he’s interaction with the likes of Snarf and the kids in the new show will be amusing. Specially because of his new size.

Panthro old vs new almost reminds me of the Road Warriors/LOD from NWA/WWE. In the early days they only had a few spikes and were in better shape. Towards the end they were grizzled and full of spikes :slight_smile:

Wow great comparison there. He does almost resemble some type of wrestler w/ those spikes. Maybe Smash from Demolition?

I think Panthro is looking similar to the original version, so I’m going to give it a try to the show.

Of all the designs we’ve seen thus far, Panthro is my least favorite, mostly due to the hair. I’ll be interested to see how he looks and acts in the show.

I will definitely reserve final judgments for when I actually see the show also.

So far I think he is way too big and did he really need hair? Especially this horrible skullet (which is actually a new word for me).

I don’t think there was anything wrong with them looking more like superheroes. Better than a cross between typical samurais and G.I.Joe. Pretty soon they will all be wearing black leather.

:thumbsup: Nice. I am not a fan of seeing everything in black leather now. Gi joe did take the cake with the good guys and bad guys all wearing black leather.

Hi All

As far as RB panthro vs WB Hellthro
RB Panthro will always be my favorite character. I am not a fan of the new WB panthro design at all
I liked his classic look and costume from RB designs best. He did have a wrestler/super-hero karate master vibe going. I don’t think it was bad what he was wearing. I like the old color scheme compared to the new and do not like the scar, darker tones, skullet or the bulk of the character. But thats me. If he is still going to fight with the fire and Ice nunchucks, then he needs to be smaller and more agile.

After seeing the classic 8’ lion-o figure, I hope the classic line does well and I can’t wait to see more, especially Panthro . If that does well, I would’t have a problem getting the classics in 4", 6" and either 9" collector with cloth costume or 12" if wb decided to do so.

With talks of Panthro being a vet and mentor to lion-o, I wonder if that means we are loosing Jaga? I hope that is not the case. If WB thinks ghosts would scare kids they should look at star wars, obi wan was a mentor to luke and came back in glowy blue. :panthrohappy:

I’ve theorized that Jaga may not be in the new series, or at least not initially…but instead of Panthro, Claudus being the reason. We know Larry Kenny is voicing him in at least 4 episodes. We know that Michael Jelenic has already stated he wanted to simplify the old mythology a bit and has hinted at there not being 3 planets (Third Earth, Plundarr, Thundera) referenced in the new show. We also have not seen a single ounce of evidence that Jaga has been written into the new series.

The most telling bit of evidence to date? The Bandai case assortments. Before BBTS took them down, in addition to the core 4 Cats, they listed both Thunderkittens, Mumm-Ra, and Grune in the case assortments. Unless Grune was a mistake for Jaga, you’ve got to start wondering if he’s even in the show.

My theory going now is that perhaps Jelenic combined elements of Jaga into Claudus, and instead Claudus will be Lion-O’s mentor. That’s what I’m sticking with until we see evidence Jaga is in the new show.

I for one hope he is.

I as well hope he is in it.
When they say simplify things to me that kinda translates to water down or dumb down for todays generation. That worries me. I hope they don’t go with silly simple. The fact that snarf will have his own language and isnt his normal nurse maid self makes me believe he will possibly have a better role (we will see).

I like this design, and I like the idea of emphasizing the whole “grizzled veteran” angle. Panthro in the original had always been suggested as being the oldest and most experienced of the group, and some of his dialogue suggested he had seen a lot. So I’m glad that’s being made a lot more apparent here. :slight_smile:

I’ve heard casting rumors that they might get a veteran Star Trek actor to play him. My first guess is either Avery Brooks (Capt. Ben Sisko on DS9) or Tony Todd (Worf’s borther Kurn. Also Candyman from the same series of movies). Keith David (Goliath on Gargoyles) would be a cool choice too, but he’s doing The Cape right now…though probably not for very much longer they way things are going with that show.

They could also get Kevin Michael Richardson, who’s in pretty much everything. But seeing as how he’s doing The Cleveland Show, Transformers Prime and G.I. Joe: Renegades, he’s probably booked solid.

Totally great observation there! The designers were probably watching a lot of wrestling back then like most of us were :slight_smile:

He to me looks Bad-ass, which as the stongest member of the team he needs to be. Hopefully this is gonna be an amazing re-imagining. Im prepared to give it a chance cause as much as love the original it is very tounge-in-cheek, and the new one can be what we all love about the original and more

I like Panthro’s revamp. He looks bigger and stronger, which matches his characteristics. He also looks wilder, more savage; I just hope they don’t turn him in the big-brute stereotype.

My problem steill with him is that, like in teh 80’s cartoons, Pantrho is the least of all that resembles his feline coutnerpart (I had problems back in the 80’s trying to figure out what cat Pantrho was supposed to be, and it was my brother who told me he’s a panther. I should have known judging from his name lol). Even now, Panthro looks like anything but a panther… not even a feline IMO.