"The Forrest of Magi Oar" - Official Talkback Thread! (CONTAINS SPOILERS!)

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This week we have Episode 11 “The Forrest of Magi Oar”. In this thread there are no spoiler tags needed, as the title has a spoiler warning!

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Ah, I think the reason why the Sword of Omens isn’t working for Lion-O is because doubting himself on being king and his progress with mastering sight beyond sight.

That dude sounds so phoney. They’ve got to be the bad guys.

I am totally thinking that we are getting a Good & Ugly reference here.

The Paper people are the bad guys, destroying the trees to make their power, and the ugly monster is the defender.

Ok well this has put to rest some Speculations. Their is some sort of Love Triangle… More like a race to see who can Woo Cheetara and from the looks of it Lion-O might be in the lead at the moment.
Also Tygra might not be adopted but rather passed over by the Sword.
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I think the Sword Wont work because It do know who is the Good Guy and Who is The Bad. Poor Cheetara Lost her Favorite Staff. :frowning:

Whoot!! Sword Rule: Sword of Omens can’t be used against Good!

That was an Odd episode for me. I see where it furthered the story but to me the timing in the Episode felt off. Not to mention those Huge Annoying intrusive Adds for that new Movie Level up. I mean Really?!? During the show ads… is nothing sacred???

P.S. Flash Chat done. Attendants 1 (me). Oh well.

It was the Tree Hugger episode that was 100% predictable. Didn’t see any previews nor did I read anything about what the episode would be about, but I knew those spirits were good right away as they did not attack our heroes, and the Headmaster immediately gave of the evil vibe. The episode was fine, just totally predictable.

The one thing that I really liked about this episode was that Cheetara got a new staff that has magical properties, so hopefully now we’ll get to see her staff do more cool things like it was able to in the OS. So far I had been rather disappointed by her staff being nothing more than a piece of wood with no special properties that I could tell.

And considering she had to be rescued by Kit who had a knife, I dunno, you’d think the ThunderCats would all carry a knife on them as a hand to hand combat weapon if needed as well as a tool. Just a thought. But if the paper was so easily cut by Kit, why couldn’t Cheetara have ripped it?

Yeah, I didn’t doubt there is some sort of love triangle but it seems more like brothers competing on getting the same girl. Still, Lion-O does look to be in the lead at the moment though I think. Cheetara herself hasn’t shown any interest in Tygra yet though. So that gets me wondering if it’s more of a one way interest from Tygra’s part and Cheetara is interested in Lion-O.

On the royal succession thing, I think Tygra is adopted and he could’ve ruled if Lion-O was incapable of wielding the Sword of Omens but that is not the case.

That was quite the twist with the Sword of Omens not working by making it seem like Lion-O’s doubt being the problem but then twisting it into the sword being incapable of being used against ‘good’.

And on Cheetara’s lost staff, I feel for her but it looks like she might have gotten a newer/better one in compensation. Can’t wait to see her use it and see if it has any new abilities compared to her older one.

They actually didn’t have a knife. They stole it off that origami samurai flunky guy and used it to free Cheetara.

I thought that at first, but the other guys weren’t ugly.

And I’m just curious what species these paper forgers were. They looked like ThunderCats with the color strip down their noses but they had round ears.

I got that same feeling about this episode too, good point! This episode was more entertaining than I thought. Not to be picky but, I thought Panthro could fight lol

An enviromental episode but it’s tolerable. Though I figured where it was going as soon as I saw that school with the smoking chimney.

I really appreciate how this show is obviously made by fans. Each episode seems like a labor of love and I am really enjoying how they present their own versions of the classic stories.

Like I said, this episode was right out of the original series too. This is this show’s version of “Good & Ugly”. The message is presented with more subtlety & fantastic action sequences.

What really made it work here is that most of the episodes have followed this pattern. Thundercats meet a new race or new character, befriend him, and they work in harmony to save the day. So up until now, we’ve been led to trust every new ally the Cats have made (except for the Mad Captain in Ramlak’s Rising"). Here we get a deviation from the norm where the monster is actually the good guy, but the Paper people were pretty believable. I especially liked the scene where Zig tried to comfort Lion-O as he did come across as genuine.

Clue Number 1 for me is that it was Tygra who initiated the attack on the spirits, not the other way around, so that made me think that the Cats were just hastily reacting to an un-welcomed presence rather than being attacked. And then when the Sword stopped working, I was thinking “Are they going to bring that old Sword of Omens’ rule into play” and sure enough they did. And for some reason, when Lion-O said “He doesn’t look so tough” when getting his first glimpse of the bird, I saw that as a bit of foreshadowing.

The large bird (name escapes me, sorry) really reminded me of The Wise Owl from The Secret of NIMH. Scary & imposing, but filled with wisdom & is a guiding light for the characters.

The villains this week were good. I especially liked that it was a team of villains, much like the specialty lizards from “Song of the Petalars”. Its fun to see the Cats work together to topple a larger enemy, but its also fun to see them match up against a team of opponents with special skills that can match theirs. My one knock is that I felt like I was watching Yu-Gi-Oh as they summoned Origami monsters, but it did lead to some great action sequences. The fight scenes throughout the episode were all pretty cool.

Its a small thing too, but I liked that they brought Lion-O & Tygra’s competitive nature to our attention again as from what it seems like, that is going to be a major issue in the next couple of episodes.

My one thing is knock is that I wish we’d get a sense of what Mumm-Ra is up too. I mean in the early episodes, we would see The Lizards doing something or Mumm-Ra planning something, even if fighting him wasn’t the major focus of the episode. Now, we haven’t really seen him since episode 6 (7 was all flashbacks) and we haven’t seen or heard anything about him or what he’s up too. I would like him to have more of a presence.

But otherwise, great episode this week. Definitely a step up from last week’s and I can’t wait to see what we’ve got coming.

paper people

A little better than the last episode…still no real overall revelations…no mummra…even from afar. the “paper” people were terrible…liked the bird strangely enough, a few plot holes (so they just left thundertank and all in the middle of the forest?), the evil paper people pretending to be good was totally predictable, anyone who is a fan of the os knows that the only way the sword does not work is when its facing good…fights end too quickly, what was up with that scene at the end of the “thunder, thunder, thundercats ho” where the sword seemed grossly out of scale?? ending was terrible..wasnt that the exact same thing he saw in the last episode when he used sbs??

…still waiting for a good episode…

it’s been confirmed by the crew that he’s adopted.

anyway called it! knew they were the bad guys.

despite a few nitpicks I liked this episode.
the good: nice action. got some acknowledgment that they still think about their past. tyrga actually seemed to encourage lion-o for a minute there.
the bad: a school with only three people? where were the students? the headmaster was the only wood forger that had any lines. wood forger powers were a little too theatrical. reminded me of when power rangers do special moves.
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also am i missing something or did the sword show him the exact same thing as last episode?

I don’t think this episode was that predictable. The Paper warriors did genuinely believe they were doing good, but they did twist the truth. So I don’t think the reveal was too obvious. I’m glad Lion-O made the attempt to negotiate before more fighting broke out.

While there were environmental themes, I wouldn’t say this was an environmental episode; the moral was seeing the big picture, not “protect the forest.” And I reiterate, the Paper Warriors were not pretending to be good. They weren’t really evil, but they were going too far. I think it’s wrong to say that they were the “evil” ones here. They weren’t in the right, but they did have good intentions.

The animation was gorgeous, and we got more from Tygra and Cheetara. This is one of the best episodes so far.

Predictable? Check.

Awesome? Check, check, check, check!

I give it points for that. And really, it’s an awesome episode.

Oh, missed that part. Still, it would make sense for them to have knives on them.

I agree that Cheetara hasn’t shown any interest in Tygra yet. She seemed genuinely surprised by him when he caught her, I think she saw the desire in his eyes and it caught her off guard. Her expression made me laugh. I wonder if she wondered if he was about to kiss her. :smiley:

I was confused by the discussion between Lion-O and Tygra around the campfire. When Lion-O talked about them having to settle something, it seemed to me that he was looking at Cheetara. If so, are they making her out to be this object to be won, yet another competition to see which brother can beat out the other?

Another thing that confused me because he tried to use Sight Beyond Sight long before he met anyone and it wouldn’t work for him, so how can that be explained by his later revelation of the sword not working for him because he couldn’t use it against good? He wasn’t using it against good when he tried to use it at the beginning.

That did make it pretty obvious. I was having flashbacks to Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers.

I thought that too. The artwork for him was very similar to NIMH. Although I think the owl in NIMH was more scary considering he ate mice.