I’m speaking of the James Cameron movie, not the Nicktoon. I mean there are similarities to Cameron’s movie with the world of Thundara being like Pandora, the Na’vi being like Thundercats and the exotic world thing even the idea of good vs. evil.
Maybe. Who knows where James Cameron got his inspiration for the Na’vi? The ThunderCats could very well been one among a number of ideas he had. Only he knows for sure. 
Okay, I know this is overtly simplistic, but still kinda funny… if you were looking for a connection with Avatar and another movie/idea, look no further than Disney’s Pocahontas:
Also Ferngully.
Avatar = OverRated.
Avatar has the same basic premise as Pocahontas? :o Is this serious? :eek:
To be honest I haven’t seen it and doubt I will, if I wanna see CG animation I’ll buy a video game. I still don’t understand what the fascination is with computer animation :rolleyes: It’s very generic and dull.
If you haven’t seen it by now, there’s no point in ever seeing it. Since the story is largely forgettable, the only reason to see it is to see the ushering in of the new Real D 3D technology. It is pretty amazing though and no movie out since has even come close to capturing what 3D should be. The CGI level of details melds with pinpoint detail to depth of vision to create a visual masterpiece.
Having said that, until 200 inch 3D televisions become affordable, the only way to really capture this movie’s visual splendor is in theatres. It isn’t worth owning the Blu-Ray, and if it ever gets re-released, it isn’t worth watching in 2D.
If you are talking Avatar: The Last Airbender, I agree. If you are talking about Avatar - Ponochantas’ tale was same as Dancing With Wolves and I believe Shakespear also had a similar plot in one of his tales??? Hmmm… I loved Avatar and thought the story was excellent, however, this is IMHO and I respect yours. I remember think about Thundercats while watching it.
To put it simply. i find no connection at all between Avatar and Thundercats.
Now, Avatar was a good movie but not to the point of being astonishing. Although the graphics were ahead of their time and very realistic, the main story and plot was quite simplistic and stereotyped. If you compare it to the wild wild west but set in another planet, it was like the expansive Cowboys were attaking the weaker Indians. Jame’s Cameron Aliens and Terminator 2 were much more sophisticated . Still, i have to admit this movie raised a few important environmental and racist issues.
Well, like I said, that “script” was overtly simplistic, but yeah, there was a good deal of similarity. The over all plot isn’t new… the idea has been out there and used quite a bit. Now, there’s a million and half little details that make Pocahontas and Avatar different, but the large plot is quite similar. It’s quite impossible to NOT think American Indians when watching Avatar… the tech level, dress, mannerisms, tribal aspects, attitude towards nature… they all scream stereotypical American Indians during the early life of what would become the United States.
I would totally agree that the larger story of Avatar isn’t that great. Visually the movie is just unreal though… even in normal 2D it is quite spectacular in my opinion and worth watching for that.
I thought Avatar was simply amazing.. Who cares if the storys been done to death.. He put his owns twists on it, which worked… And thats why it has a massive fan base
Just like Harry Potter, Most the ideas, even the name was ripped from other books.. And look how well J.K. Rowling has done out of it..
P.s.. I have Avatar on bluray.. It it is simply astonishing!!
The only ‘twist’ it has is the “avatar” concept (ability to transfer ur conciousness into another body), besides that it mirriors Pocahontas and Ferngully in so many obvious ways. The fact that the Na’vi were ‘indians’ was such a corny idea to me. They dont come off as looking realistic at all (except for some facial expressions), they look cartoony.
:eek:I’d love to see Pocahantas and John Smith riding a Banshee or maybe Turuk. Whatever… I loved the movie and would have loved to see the Thundercats animated in this manner. Instead, we get a remake and we know how great remakes are…
I enjoyed Avatar for the visuals. It was very nice eye candy. I think the aliens looked very realistic… granted, there were a few points where it was clear it was animation but over all I thought it was well done.
I do think the story line was a bit cheap. Slight twists but otherwise pretty one dimensional characters. The military were by and large heartless people who like to see things go boom. The scientists were all super caring about the natives and wanted to be peaceful with them. The company leaders were interested only in profit and didn’t care about the planet or aliens. The aliens were, by and large, proud people in tune with nature. Other than maybe five characters there was virtually no depth. It was a predictable, expected story line.
That said, I still enjoyed it. Heck, Apollo 13 was pretty predictable too, and I still liked that movie. Just about ever movie has the good guys winning… ever episode of TCats will probably have the TCats winning. That doesn’t mean it’s bad just because it’s predictable.
Good visuals, good action scenes… Not in my top 10, but still a good movie.
What’s with the Dances with Wolves/Ferngully/Pocahontas comparisions? Have any of you heard of Princess Mononoke, Nausicaa and Frank Herbert’s Dune? that is what Avatar is inspired by actually since Cameron is a huge fan of animation/anime and Frank Herbert’s novel.
Hey Bengail, how come you don’t hear anyone The Matrix is like Ghost in The Shell, Blade Runner, Ninja Scroll, Akira, Fist of the North Star, Dark City, etc.? hmm?
The Matrix is live-action Ghost in The Shell, face it! rent GITS and you’ll never look at The Matrix the same way again.
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What’s with the Dances with Wolves/Ferngully/Pocahontas comparisions? Have any of you heard of Princess Mononoke, Nausicaa and Frank Herbert’s Dune? that is what Avatar is inspired by actually since Cameron is a huge fan of animation/anime and Frank Herbert’s novel.
Sorry, I don’t mean to dis, but I never saw Princess Mono or Nausicaa so I have no way to compare them. Did see Dune & I can’t see the connection either, but this doesn’t mean you don’t have a point. Everyone sees things differently.
Thundercats, definitely not. Final Fantasy X…tell me the Navi don’t look like - or should I say, weren’t ripped off of the Ronso…
I dunno… other than the blue color, I don’t see too much similarities. The Ronso appear to be feline like where as the Navi were much more human-like. The Navi were tall and thin. The Ronso… well I have no idea of height, but the picture so a figure CLEARLY significantly more muscularly built than any of the Navi. The pictures also show clawed feet and hands. The Navi did not have this either. The Ronso pictured has facial and chest hair. I don’t recall the Navi having either.
Honestly the Ronso look much more like Thundercats to me than they do the Navi.
I hear ya…not to mention the huge horn the Ronso sport. But if there ever was a deterrent to explain those details, it can summed up in three words: “copy write infringement”. I personally think they could have stuck the Ronso on Navi World as a rival tribe and gotten away with it.
Michael Bay not coming within a 39 1/2 foot pole of getting his hands on a film if it gets made will be a start in the right direction (although there’s worse, like Uwe Boll or Ang Lee).
Say what you will about Avatar, but James Cameron or Peter Jackson would probably be two of the best director choices out there.
Both are probably too high profile and, unless WB threw an insane amount of money at them, they would probably turn it down.
As weird as it sounds, probably the best fit for the kind of budget Thundercats would probably receive, would be Jon Favreu. If Spider-Man set the bar for the new millennium comic films, he raised it with Iron Man. You can probably google and find that at one point he was rumored to be attached to a Thundercats script starring Hugh Jackman which looked goofy as all get out. That was several years ago though (and I’m not sure it was real). He’s doing the upcoming Cowboys and Aliens which looks awesome from the previews. Two others I will submit that I think the film would be in great hands in are J.J. Abrams (the Star Trek version) and Christopher Nolan. Both of those guys though might be too high of an asking price, which again is why I come back to Favreau as the right combination of a director with the talent and some recent film success, but that isn’t out of the realm of possibility from a dollars standpoint.
That would be just a start though (a good director). But so many movies have been doomed from the get go due to poor choice of director, that that choice is almost equally as important as casting.
James Cameron is apparently working on the set of Spiderman 4…
Although i dont think the cast are up to scratch.. Again…