Didn’t we see lynx-o, very briefly.
He/she said to see Lynx-o AGAIN. We only saw him once at the start of the show. In episode 5 they mentioned him by name and that’s the last time we saw/heard of him.
The villains in the 2011 series were in my opinion a big problem. We never got to see the Berserkers, Safari Joe, Mongor, Captain Shiner, Captain Cracker etc. If more iconic characters had been introduced instead of boring episodes about soul stealers, fish pirates, paper folders and a duellist it would probably be a different situation now regarding a second season. You see those villains could have at least been sold as toys, unlike the generic villains that did appear through most of the series.
Your optimism made my day! By the way, holding out hope despite the odds is not stupid. ![]()
Now you are saying that just cause you are an old fan. This show was “never for you” but for the kids and they would not understand the difference.
Besides, i liked the duelist episode. Mostly the look of it, and the soul stealer story was darn sad… Poor guy.
Also i would not call the evil guys generic, how were they that exactly? To be fair, Mumm-Ra is quite a generic villain (if we can call him that as the character was created long ago) compared to many others. The Duelist is interesting in his goals. He’s not really THAT EVIL, he’s just a douchebag. The Soul stealer is not really evil either as he’s mostly just sad and angry.
Again how is that generic?
Well when most of them basically have no names, no real back story, lack any character and have no marketability I really class that as being very generic. What I am trying to say is the main purpose of this series was to sell toys. Most of them only appeared in one episode and lacked any ‘gimmick’ that could be exploited and incorporated into a toy design. Even iconic characters like Kanar, Adicus, Ratar-o and Vultureman didn’t appear until after half way through the series. Those characters should have been introduced far earlier allowing Bandai to at least make the figures and have some of them available in the first basic wave.
I understand the show was aimed at kids, but obviously the writers didn’t understand it.
Well ok, I took it to mean as “again after the OS”. Btw we saw him, not just heard of, I remember he looked pretty cool.
Lol, you should probably get glasses (no offence).
I said WE SAW HIM, in the first episode but only HEARD of him in the fifth one ![]()
Yes i agree. I like that the show tried to go with a story, but because the show is one of those that goes with toysales, a story like this almost does not make sense. You kinda like have to make the story so you see every character each episode. Which is very hard considering how many characters there were in this show (talking about main ones).
The target audience was just wrong. Look at the old Thundercats, old He-man or any simliar show. The structure of the episodes are mostly the same. That’s how it used to be.
What they could have done is again, have a few good guys and a few bad guys and have them appear in each episode (even if it would be as little as 5 seconds) and just do what they do. All main characters should almost have been there from the get go to get more toys and a more variation of them.
Exactly. If they had done a more standard cartoon first season it would have helped establish characters and plot. Instead of being plunged into a journey from the beginning. The fall of Thundera and a long journey would have worked better as a second season.
The fact is these writers could not handle a toy sales driven cartoon. In comparison to TMNT, all the main characters are there from the start and available as toys.
Indeed.
It’s not a bad show by any means, it’s just a bad “toy driven childerens show”.
I agree 100% with that. Although I still think it failed to capture the feeling of the OS. If the Show had not been Thundercats and they were not looking to sell millions of toys the show would have been absolutely brilliant.
I’m beginning to agree more and more with this. I think the whole darkness and different take was almost too much to call it ThunderCats. It’s kind of weird to hear this point of view coming from a die-hard NS fan, but it’s true. If they would have just let it be a show that wasn’t solely based on toys (like the OS), it would have been great. Overall, however, the advertising and bad timeslots just killed the NS, especially the toy sales.
Again, said in 100 threads:
The show is good, was good. I really like the darkness, the story about how Mumm-Ra got the sword, how they all were his slaves etc.
But it’s just not “Thundercats”. Just think how cool a serious Pokemon show could be? But that would not be a “Pokemon” show.
The darker and more serious aspects were interesting but I think it was too much to soon, a bit more fun action episodes first, then the darker stuff in a second season.
NS had it’s problems but it was Bandai’s poor toys that played a bigger part in it’s downfall.
Ah my bad (again). I could have sworn it wasn’t the first episode we saw him in, hence my confusion.
Well i consider the first two episodes as one episode. They aired with each other at the premiere in 2011
Hey guys, sorry for being away for some time but my offline life has been really busy.
I am proud to say that Thundercats are finally going to make their appearance to the Greek Tv as well!
here is the ad:
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I hope the figures come as well
@ Lordore. You get the figures extremely cheap in the UK now for 99p each, you should just import them if you really want them.
http://www.homebargains.co.uk/products/6317-thundercats-assorted-figures-case-of-12.aspx
I realize I’m kinda late by chiming in on this (been away for awhile), but here’s my two cents on the topic:
The answer is simple really. Cartoon Network, like Disney before it, has been suffering an identity crisis. You have the ushering in of “new” executives over the last six years or so; they’re older, grey-haired gentlemen who are so beyond the demographic they’re selling to & don’t really have an understanding of what’s going on in a market that shifts as fast as the click of a mouse. In a feeble attempt to gain the constantly shifting attention of the post-millennial generation (competing with other tween-centric networks, social media, next gen consoles, etc.), they feel the only way to gain cool points with the remaining audience is fad-out or kiddie-fy their programming. These guys have spent more time in boardrooms & not doing the groundwork by actually listening to the people who truly matter (their viewers). They believe the best way to seek the rewards of viewership is to divide the generational gap instead of bridging it; which ironically is what the 90’s/early 2000’s version of Cartoon Network was able to master. (you’d think this would be remedied via social media or by simply checking the YouTube comments section once in awhile, right?) --Remember Space Ghost: Coast to Coast & the original Toonami? Again, that theme pops up, bridging the old & new.
So, in the end, they cut the more expensively (quality-driven) properties–yes, even the shows that are still highly rated & those that would actually give them longevity in the future via DVD/Blu-ray/VOD sales & replace them with the cheaper, American-poorly produced animated shows (i.e. The Annoying Orange). It’s a travesty, especially when you see what they’ve done with shows like newly revamped Teen Titans.
If you want an example of how to properly run a network, look no further than The Hub who is spearheaded by the former president of the 90’s powerhouse FOX KIDS Network, Margaret Loesch. She realized the variety of programs that made her past lineups a success & upon starting The Hub, if she was able to acquire the rights to those properties, she included them. Its why shows like Batman the Animated Series, the original G.I. Joe & Transformers series, Goosebumps & Animaniacs are still prominently featured in addition to The Hub’s own original programming. In turn, they’ve actually been given a second life & still garner pretty high ratings despite the fact that most are available through the aforementioned distributive vehicles.
The bottom line is, as a culture, though we hanker for the future, we’re still a nostalgic breed. So, this is where Margaret’s network succeeds because she understands that you don’t just throw away the previous generation. It boils down to the philosophy that if you give something to everybody, by being inclusive, you’ll get more in return…and boy, they have!
Cartoon Network is a steadily sinking ship that really needs the direction of someone of my age per se; 30-something, who lives in the moment, but remembers what it was like growing up in the heyday of great, quality-driven animated programs. It’s then & only then could they recapture that magic, appease their audience, & successfully bridge that gap.
What? The original show was designed to sell toys, I’m personally rather go with the darkness of the reboot considering the potential and considering they were going to delve more into Cheetara’s past as she was the character I wanted to know more about, I argue CN killed it way too soon.