i might be the only one, but the new art style for the thundercats is freaking awesome. it is actually one of the good things about the reboot if you ask me.
I definitely agree. The landscapes all look very nice, and the designs of several of the supporting characters seem seem to have elements of the old Rankin Bass art style from not just ThunderCats but things like The Hobbit cartoon they did, or that one with the dragons. I think one of my favorite things was the aesthetics of the rat society. Norton basically took the look of Rataro and Ratilla from the OS and applied it the rat race as a whole.
And like I mentioned in another thread, I also like the change in some of the main character’s color palettes. Many of the Cats in the OS wore blue and/or grey, which doesn’t help differentiate each member, at least visually. Wearing different colors helps each character stand out more just at a glance.
You’re definitely not alone on that.
Not at all man. The show looks great if your watching it on a good TV.
Can I buy some zap apples from you? Or maybe season 3? Or get drunk off your “apple” cider? XD
LMAO this thread is hilarious!
Sabotage hahaha…
Time to bring out the tin foil hats. The CN black helicopters are circling…
CN sabotaged Thundercats’ ratings?
http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/phpThumb_generated_thumbnailjpg.jpg
Sure, you’ll just have to wait until November 10.
As for the direct sabotage, I don’t think they meant it in that extreme of a manner. However, I do believe they follow a strategy similar if not identical. It’s not the network’s fault that they advertise their popular shows, but imagine how much they’d benefit if they marketed all shows equally. I see places like Comedy Central and even CN’s direct competitors like The Hub and Nickelodeon showing ads for shows that don’t (seem) like they would make it past one season. But they are still trying to get these shows popular so they can profit from as many shows as possible. If CN would follow this, I think they would realize that not only would shows on the channel and the network as a whole be more popular, but they could profit so much more than just capitalizing on a small handful of shows. Plus they wouldn’t completely enrage part of their fan base when they put shows like ThunderCats on hiatus or remove a whole block of shows for 3 months. I recommend you read the comments on their more recent Twitter and Facebook posts to see the hate towards the network.
Did you not read the thread title until now?
And yeah, I get it, this is pretty far fetched. That’s why I put “May Have” in the title. I wouldn’t put all my money on this theory, but honestly, after reading about all the different kinds of meddling network executives will do to a show, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true. Yes, a network will always try to make the most money they can, but that doesn’t always mean it won’t make mistakes. Some executives can make very big mistakes which get them fired.
We often know very little about the people in charge of television networks or their motives. That they want to make money is the only thing we can be sure of, but how they think the best way to make money isn’t always very clear. A show that’s only doing okay can still be replaced if the network thinks a different show will make them more money. And if you were an executive in charge of CN and you didn’t like the show, would it be so improbable that you might try something to get it off the air? Networks aren’t run by computers, they’re run by people who are just as likely to make their decisions based on statistics as they are on their own personal preferences.
Is it really so hard to believe that Cartoon Network might try shifting away from action to comedy? It’s not impossible that the reason CN decided not to get a second because they don’t want to air more action shows. If you want examples of the weird things executives will do, just read the entries here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExecutiveMeddling
It may indeed be highly unlikely that CN was trying to make an excuse to ax Thundercats. Matthew Mercer did say that the ratings did go up after the move to Saturday mornings, though I’m not sure how true that is exactly. So the change in time may have been CN trying to help the show out, but if they really were trying to support it they could have gotten some more commercials on the air. It still seems like apathy towards the show’s future.
Oh yes I have read the title of the thread and I still find it funny hence my last post.
I just don’t understand what CN would gain from doing this?
I think the most likely gain would be making room for a show the network thinks will be more profitable. If a show is neither incredibly popular or unpopular, they can either try to give it more support if they think it will earn a lot more profit, or just drop it if they think they should give support to something with more potential. A network can’t support an infinite number of shows, they have limited air time in their schedule. A time comes when they need to drop an old show and make way for new ones.
Networks also have to try to keep their reputations and please stockholders, and money isn’t the only factor. They could just drop a show they don’t like, but doing do so simply because they don’t like it rubs a lot of people the wrong way. It also looks bad if they don’t air every episode they ordered, since that’s a bunch of wasted money. By manufacturing a situation which will make the show’s ratings drop, it makes the decision to drop the show seem more reasonable. If someone has a problem with it, they can point to the bad ratings to blame, even if many know the bad ratings are because of a poor time slot.
For instance, there is the Friday Night Death Slot. Many people do not watch television on Friday nights because they’re having fun away from home. Same goes for when there are football games on Sunday. Many a good show has been canceled simply because they were placed on these death slots, but the networks often don’t see the relationship between bad ratings and an awful air time, at least on the surface. Executives should be aware of these poor time slots and their effects. Some times they do know and know how to use it. According to that page though, CN seems to avert it. If TC was getting high ratings at that time like the entry claims, I have to wonder why they decided to move it, since the most common theory is that it was getting bad ratings.
Television is like politics, the whole system can be incredibly complex and unclear. It’s constantly being changed by new trends, competition, the interests of audiences and conflicting motives. Right now, Cartoon Network’s plan seems to be to pick and choose which shows they believe have the most potential and putting most of their resources into those, as opposed to trying to give all their shows generally equal support. People within a network don’t always agree with each other though.
Something else to consider is CN’s relationship to WB Animation. The article posted mentions reasons why the DC Nation block was removed, and one of them is a falling out between the two companies over the new Batman cartoon, as well as potential legal trouble in regards to DC’s use of Milestone characters. CN may be trying to phase WB productions out of their programming, and Thundercats is one of those. While both may be owned by the same parents company, they are still separate entities run by different people. Similarly, adult swim may be owned by the same people, but it isn’t run by the same people who run CN proper.
I don’t know, fact is some companies hire idiots.
Regardless of my feeling about the NS I would still have liked it to succeed. It’s a real shame CN and Bandai doubly messed it up.
I had a dream and I dreamt that WB let 4Kids remake the show and the show wasn’t really that good. O.o The voice acting…and the repetitive music…cringe I watched their updated version of Voltron and hated the first episode.
“ThunderCats” and 4Kids? Nope. A very bad combination.
4Kids and EVERYTHING is so terrible.
Drastically wrong Hammy. May I remind you they did a very successful TMNT cartoon. 
Although I know nothing of their other shows other than TMNT.
One Piece (dubbed by them) was the biggest load of crap ever. 4Kids is commonly hated among anime and a good amount of animation fans.
Then I believe this will not make you very happy. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_4Kids_licenses_and_productions
According to this 4Kids now own 2011 Thundercats.
Wow…my dream was right…Oh goodness guys…prepare for the horrid of the aesthetics I’ve seen if my dream is correct. (Or pray that wikipedia is a boat load of crap information like teachers say it is.) I don’t want Tygra back in that bluish gray/periwinkle colored leotard or them looking too young and have crappy VAs. : pouts: I’LL MISS MY WILLIE AND MATTY AND ADORABLE KITTY KIDS!!! :despair:
And yeah, they butchered a lot of anime shows. One Piece gotten the most complaints except I was okay with Roronoa Zoro’s (or Zolo eyeroll) VA in the 4Kids version. TMNT was pretty good until Fast Forward; that season was stupid.
I haven’t seen a lot of the 4Kids TMNT butI agree ‘Fast Forward’ was a terrible.