Oh I don’t think snarf is as bad as Jar Jar but I see your point! ![]()
I like Snarf
He’s annoying some times but he take care of us and I really like he’s cook :wilykat:
I liked Snarf. Seeing him distressed when Lion-O was in trouble was great! I did like Cringer more than I did Orko. As for Snarfer…I’d like to see someone take a lightsaber to that little…:evil: His voice just irritated me to no end.
Totally agree with you there - Snarf kicked bottom and I’m frankly shocked anyone would think otherwise! lol
It’s not just episodes like Snarf takes up the challenge but what about that one (trying to think of the episode now…) where mumm-ra seals the weapon room so the TCs have to fight the mutants without any weapons. The only way they get through is because snarf can crawl though the vents and get the sword of omens (closely followed by jackelman if memory serves, will so have to look that one up when I get home).
Some may rebute me for saying but after all it was a kids program and in my opinion this type of lighter characters made the program what it was.
But, yes - Snarfer irratated me and does to this day. dunno, must just be a clash of personalities ![]()
And Jar jar Binks was the worst idea ever. Unlike Thundercats, Star Wars wasn’t primarily for kids and didn’t need that type of humour which was, i think, adequately provided in the whole Han Solo/C-3PO/R2D2 kind of characters. Obviously Mr Lucas noticed this which is why, after the Phantom Menace, you hardly ever see him but do get more of the original style humour: e.g. “What a drag” and “I’m beside myself” - C3PO in Attack of the Clones. OK Arthur, stop the rant now. he he he
Go Snarf! ![]()
Later xx
Personally, I can’t stand Snarf. He just got on my nerves alot. I think this picture is the best picture of Snarf I have ever seen :evil:
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Come on…who else here woudn’t just love to do this for everytime Snarf did something annoying or stupid?
Gotta agree with you Psychedelic Chicken.. Snarf did have his moments. Not many, but enough to at least let him prove his worth.
And Snarfer.. well, yeah.. he needed to suffer badly, before being written out.
As far as all the snarf haters, I like to think of them as just having a sad hang up on Lion-o and his ilk. :mischievous:
Personally, I feel Queen’s image is backward.. it’s Lion-o who needs a swift kick whenever the smarm starts to flow. ![]()
I like Snarf. He was there through out it all so theres nothing we can do. He’s a cool side kick really. I don’t see him as the ‘comedic relief’ but as the t-cat that was always cautious to everything. He’s an essential part of the t-cats legacy.
I liked Snarf, I think its one of those sort of marmite things you either like it or hate it.
I really wish Id had one of the Snarf plush toys as a kid I woulda hugged it every night ![]()
At first Snarf was just irritating. Then, as they made him less of a 'fraidy-cat, I grew to like him. For all his self-proclaimed lack of bravery, he could be very brave when he had to be.:bengali:
i felt that he was very important charachter in the series and also he was a charachter i enjoyed, he was a hero in a number of eps as well
I think that Snarf is definitely part of the T-cat legacy, and I didn’t mind him either. He’s not annoying (and hard to understand) like Jar Jar Binks. I didn’t really mind (and I know people are going to hate me for this, too) Snarfer, either. I mean, if they got new Thundercats, they needed another Snarf for their section of Third Earth. Granted, I never liked him like I liked Snarf, but he didn’t really bother me all that much.
I like Snarf, never had any real problems with him as a kid or now as an adult re-enjoying the TCat DVD’s. I think he is an underestimated character - evidenced in “Snarf Takes Up the Challenge”, etc.
I actually really like Snarf and have never really found him annoying (or Snarfer really). I enjoy the fact that he is the one member that worries and whines as well as the nurturing aspect he has with Lion-O. In fact one of my few complaints about the new series was that he no longer spoke.
Snarf’s a sensational character. ![]()
I really find him annoying.
I always liked Snarf. He is an integral part of the team.
I agree with you, my friend. :snarf
As a kid, I hated Snarf.
When I rewatched the show as an adult, I was surprised to find how much I liked him. I think he was at his best when Starr wrote him, but some other writers gave him some good lines as well.
He really is the best o’ the ThunderCat bunch.
I agree that Snarf is the kind of character you either love or hate:
I can’t remember what I thought of him as a kid. I don’t think I gave him that much thought to be honest.
But when I rewatched the show as an adult, he stole it. Best character by a mile.
“Snarf Takes Up The Challenge” is one of the very best episodes in the series.
It’s particularly good because Snarf doesn’t suddenly develop the power to defeat Mumm-Ra himself as such, but he uses what skills he does have. Granted, Robear-Bill’s line about his ability to communicate with the animals is only introduced in this episode, but it’s an ability that does resurface (in “Divide And Conquer” and probably others). Snarf saves the day simply by doing what he is good at. He gets into the pyramid and frees Lion-O, and then takes a back seat, he’s done enough to get the credit, now the other characters can do the fighty bit.
Episode Rating: *****
It’s also worth comparing this episode to other shows that have equivalent episodes that teach the kids the same moral lessons. Some are good, some are awful. May contain a few spoilers . . .
Defenders Of The Earth - The Sleeper Awakes
This naturally enough had Kshin as the one full of self-doubt. Like Snarf, Kshin is a character you either love or hate. My opinion of him varies from episode to episode.
This episode created a situation where Kshin’s size made him the only person who could get into a particular place. Once inside, he had to climb all the way to the top of the robot, and we saw him climbing and getting more and more determined. Once in the control centre, he followed Rick’s instructions in terms of the technical tasks, but that’s reasonable enough, Rick was the computer whiz of the team. Kshin was still the one with his fingers on the buttons.
Episode Rating: *****
Visionaries - Feryl Steps Out
This is a trickier one. There’s no “goofy sidekick” type character in this show, so they used Feryl, the youngest of the Spectral Knights, as the lead in this episode. He’s the driver of their main vehicle, the Capture Chariot. It’s not that bad a treatment I suppose, but it’s just not quite right that after performing passably well in earlier episodes, one bad day at the start of this one and he thinks he’s a complete failure. He’s old enough to know better already. But the really dodgy bit is that when he then walks out on the Spectral Knights, he takes the Capture Chariot with him! He has just said, “better that I leave the Spectral Knights than endanger them” - and he then deprives them of their main vehicle, the most powerful weapon at their disposal! He doesn’t think that’s endangering them? (Of course, it does come in useful for him later on!) One of the few weak episodes from an otherwise pretty amazing show.
Episode Rating: **
King Arthur And The Knights Of Justice - Assault On Castle Morgana
Now this is a dodgy show in general - it requires more suspension of disbelief than most cartoons. (But with a theme tune like this has, I’ll give it a bit of leeway!) However, if you can swallow the dodgy initial premise, it does have some good episodes, and this is one of the high points. The obvious thing to do here would be to put one of the squires, Everett or Tyrone, in the centre seat here. But no - although Tyrone does play a significant part in this episode, it is one of the knights, the put-upon Lug, who learns to believe in himself a bit more. After what I just said above about the Visionaries treatment of this moral, you’re probably expecting me to tear into this even more, after all, this series isn’t a patch on Visionaries. But no. I’ve already said, this is one of the high points of this series. Lug as the star of this episode makes sense, as the other knights are often putting him down (well, some of them), he’s often picked on, the victim of one-liners, and so forth. As such he’s a perfectly good choice for this story. Actually, this little moral lesson takes more of a back seat than it does in other shows, we don’t see him constantly at war with his fears in the episode, he’s included in the mission, but he’s not pushed front and centre. And it works. When we do see him, we see his turmoil, and it is resolved at the end quite well.
Episode Rating: ****
Bravestarr - The Good, The Bad And The Clumsy
Ugh. This one has been a few years since I saw it, but I have seen it as an adult. Fuzz messes up at the start of the episode, and quits as Bravestarr’s deputy, much like Feryl in Feryl Steps Out. However, this is not as good. Fuzz is admittedly the natural character for the episode, but it’s just too cliched. Even worse is the ending. Thirty-Thirty asks Bravestarr why he didn’t just call on Strength Of The Bear to escape his predicament - exactly what we’re all thinking. Bravestarr explains that he needed to give Fuzz the chance to redeem himself . . . yeah, but this is a life-or-death situation, it’s hardly the time to hang about and hope that your nervous sidekick comes good in the end!
Episode Rating: *
I never saw as much of He-Man, and don’t know the equivalent episode it had. I’m guessing it put Orko centre stage?