WonderCon 2011 - ThunderCats

Well that finally solves the mystery of weither or not Tygra and Lion-O are blood related. I was right! hehe.

I hope Cheetara Ends up with Tygra in the love Triangle tho. I always thought Lion-O had more chemistry with Mandora and Willa.

And I expect Jaga and Claudus to both die. Especially Claudus because Larry Kenny has said he’s only in the first few episodes.

Balgus, can you explain your post to me? I can’t watch the video and only read about the love triangle. Is it between Cheetara, Tygra and Lion-O, or between Tygra and Panthro? Anyway, I also hope she ends up with Tygra. And what about the Tygra - Lion-O blood relation? Please tell me :smiley:

He specifically states that they are adopted brothers and that the Love triangle is between Cheetara and the brothers. :smiley:

Thanks.

So none of them is Clawdus’ son? Or are they adopted brothers, being Lion-O a real son of Clawdus?

I’m assuming Lion-O is Claudus biological son. Which is why he’s the heir.

Now there is some great news! No more need to try and figure out how an apparently 100% tiger has a lion for a dad. I always hoped that Tygra and Lion-O being brothers was due to Tygra being adopted somehow.

That might be kind of interesting for his chatracter, if tehy ever decide to go into it:

a) Tygra’s feelings about having been abandoned or having his parents killed, anyway, being an orphan.

b) Tygra’s feelings towards Clawdus and Lion-O: maybe a mixture of gratefulness, envy and joy.

c) Tygra being older than Lion-O, he might be also somehow a teacher for him, something like the Teela/Adam relationship… and maybe Tygra gets frustrated at Lion-O’s apparent inmaturity to assume his role as the lord to be.

There was a little bit in the interview about there being some drama between Lion-O and Tygra about Lion-O being Lord even tho he’s the younger brother and Tygra is adopted. Guess we’ll have to wait and see how far that extends tho.

OK, guilty pleasure… I love those family dramas lol

Can’t wait to watch the show and see how deep might make Tygra this time (especially considering most people thought of him as lame in the old show… how wrong they are!)

I never thought Tygra was lame exactly. He was just a little straight laced & kind of a stick in the mud.

One of my favorite Tygra moments was in “Slaves of Castle Plun-Darr” when Cheetara makes a joke “When have the Mutants ever followed the rules” and then he goes into this ridiculously serious speech “Rules are only meaningful of people follow them. Otherwise, they are just words”. I just thought it was the nerdiest thing I’d ever heard anyone say in my life. It was great & unintentionally hilarious.

But that straight laced part of Tygra seemed to make him more susceptible to things like The Keystone & “Silky’s Magic Fruit”. He lived his entire life on the straightedge. So much so that when he veered off just a little bit, he didn’t know how to handle it & was exposed to too much too soon which only made him worse. Even though he was a walking Rule Book, I always felt like he carried the most emotional baggage, at least internally. This came out more in The Crystal Canyon.

Anyways, getting back on topic, I think its natural to have at least a slightly antagonistic relationship between Lion-O & Tygra. Even if they aren’t brothers (which they are this time around), Lion-O is younger, headstrong, but in a position of authroity. Tygra is Mr. By the Rules so its just natural that they butt heads (Watch Pumm-Ra from the original series. That episode covered this well). And in the original show, they actually shared responsibilities with Tygra being head of the T-Cats Council (I wish they had explored that a little more actually). Now get to this new show: They are brothers & a chick like Cheetara is involved. Oh yeah.. They gonna fight! LOL.

Tygra seems to smirk a lot in the trailers, so I’m guessing they’re making him a little more fun this time a round, hopefully in a cool and stylish sort of way rather than being an arrogant troublemaker.

I like a lot your analysis of Tygra, and agree with it. Yes, he’s Mr. Rule Book, but every team needs someone like him to keep their feet in the ground, it’s what make every member complemetary I think. And yes, I also think he’s the one who carried the biggest emotional baggage in the original show, but producers rarely showed it. I also agree in that it was that part of his personality that made him go out of control, because he never learned how to handle it.

I just listened to the second interview, Thanks for sharing T-Cat.

Ok First of all i like this larger arc epic storyline, instead of the many stand-alone episodes. It was something we all missed in the original and even though Season 2 was more coherent and continuity driven there were gaps which caused the enthusiasm and the excitement to die down. For instance episodes like the ‘Hair of the Dog’ were completely irrelevant. This particular episode is my worst out of all.

Apparently the ‘adopted’ is destined to Tygra, although Jelenic isn’t very clear on this point, he says ‘adopted brothers’. But it brings on the table some great ideas.

-‘The only Thundercats left’ after the destruction of the Kingdom of Thundera, this sounds so much like the original,if you give it a thought it’s two sides of the same coin. I am not exactly sure what is the big difference between the 80s and the 2011 storyline, in both cases Thundera is wiped off the map from the beginning. i guess they wanted to avoid retelling the suspension capsules and trip to a foreign planet scenario. I am cool with that.

About the love triangle, i remember in the original a moment towards the end of the episode ‘All that Glitters’ where Lion-o made sheep’s eyes at Cheetara and lifts her up with his bare hands!! Also, Cheetra comments on Lion-o’s handsome exterior in the Exodus episode!! Hell yeah i’d like to hear more of these teasing comments in the New series!! My ONLY wish is they don’t turn it into some kind of a silly soap opera:mad: with stupid love affairs

It’s kind of ironic, isn’t it? even 25 years ago in the 80s cartoon when there wasn’t any hint of Lion-o and Tygra being brothers or any rule of hierarchy , Lion-o instructs Tygra:‘If i don’t return you will be the New Lord of the Thundercats’ in the episode ‘‘All that Glitters’’ as if there was meant to be predestined that Tygra would always be second in command after Lion-o…

here was the write up I did on the panel last Sunday. Keep in mind I wrote this a few hours after the panel and was exhausted so excuse any typos, or anything like that.

[LEFT]It was quite the amazing Wondercon for this Thundercat fan. We showed up about a half hour early, Being escorted by Captain America (No, really.) to the Esplanade ball room. (He was there the night before in the Costume Contest.) We walk in and realize the previous panel was still going on, despite being ten minutes before the Thundercats panel was scheduled to begin, which worked great because it allowed us to survey the room to figure out how to best take pictures and videos of the trailer. (Which ended up being a moot point, apparently haha.)

Finally, the main event. We creep closer to the biggest screen and PA system and get ourselves ready. With in just a few minutes, we were welcomed by an Exec from WB animation (Whose name I sadly did not catch) who thanked us for coming an introduced us to the panelists.

We began by viewing the trailer (Which you have all seen by now.) after which our host asked Larry Kenney to give the fans what they want… Which he obliged. Larry gives us a full hearted “THUNDER, THUNDER, THUNDER, THUNDERCATS… HOOOO!!!” And got a huge crowd pop. He followed up by telling us he’s retiring that character, and we can now only hear that from Will Friedle. Larry was absolutely amazing the entire panel, just for the record. Great personality.

Next they tell about how long this reboot has been in the works. Briefly mentioned the rock band version, the movie, Wildstorm comics etc. They talk about how a lot of the things we see that are familiar to us are done so as an homage to the original series, and out of respect for the foundation layed by the original series. Such as Cat’s Lair, the Thundertank etc. Anything changed was done out of trying to update it for a new generation.

The Thundercats have apparently separated themselves from the rest of Third Earth in their own society. It sounds like There are other cats out there exploring Third Earth for reasons not said. They show us a section of still shots, and the crowd seems really pleased with the new take on the characters. (I of course, cheered loudly for my beloved Wilytwins, while the rest of the audience gave an “Awwwwwwwwww”)

The host asks about Snarf, who recieves quite the mixed reaction. The audience was split right in the middle about this character. They confirmed that Snarf can not talk. He only can make animal like sounds and say “Snarf!” The question as to whom will be doing the voice for Snarf is asked, and we are told that Snarf is actually being voiced by a Seiyuu in Japan but no one in specific was named. (It was also mentioned that Snarf’s lines have yet to be recorded, but will be this week in Japan.)

We next discussed the music of the new series. It was described as more epic and grand in scale, closer to a movie. There will of course be certain music cues familiar to the series, but a majority of the soundtrack is brand new scores.

The first season will be 26 episodes, and they are aiming for at least 52 in total. The story was described like a movie epic. There will be things that appear in the first episode that won’t be significant until much later in the series, giving it a movie feel. (They really stressed the movie like feel of the story telling. It was compared to a 52 episode movie.)

When it comes to redesigning vehicles, they really sweated themselves over the creation of the new Thundertank. They were very worried about it not living up to it’s legacy. It’s one of the most iconic cartoon vehicles of the 80s and they wanted to honor that. Larry mentions that the new thundertank has a DVD player and a GPS. Back in the 80s they didn’t have video in it at all! (Larry seriously was a very awesome guy with lots of great wisecracks.)
They heavily put over Bandai’s upcoming toyline talking about how great they are. Larry tells us that Cheetara is the original thundercat’s ho. (That joke got a mixed reaction, butI almost died when he said it.)

They then opened the floor to fan Q and A. (I quickly took a spot in line, prepared to ask all the tough questions and impress them with my knoweledge on the series. I even had a back up, nothing was going to stop me from showing how bad ass I am about Thundercats to this Panel. I was going to look so AWESOME IN THEIR EYES!.. How’d it turn out? Read on, fair forum goer!)

In this section we learned:

That the mythology and basic story was all based on the original series, changed where necessary to simplify the history. Such important moments as Thunder being destroyed still happens, as it’s a necessary piece of the thundercats mythology. (This personally shocked me.)

The next question was about Lion O starting the series as a teenager. Through out the corse of the story, Lion O will age and grow in to a true warrior. Larry chimes in with stories about Lion O as a child, and even says a few lines as Young Lion O From Exodus. HUGE CROWD POP.

The next question is about how it seems that a lot of Sci Fi was cut from the show. We’re assured that not all of the Sci Fi elements are gone, and the series is described as half fantasy, half sci fi. There will apparently be out space scenes still in the series.

More questions about Snarf, mentioning what I said above, also comparing him to an R2D2 type character. Lion O Can fully understand Snarf’s sounds.

Question about classic vehicles appearing, as well as characters like the Berbils. hey wait just a damn minute. That’s what I was going to ask! MY MOMENT HAS BEEN RUINED. It’s cool, I have a back up.

Captain America asks about other Rankin Bass characters. It’s teased that Silver Hawks could be rebooted or appear in this series.

Next question is about classic characters such as Mandora, the Berbils and…Anyway, they confirm all the classic mutants will be involved and characters like Mandora are teased as possibilities. We’re told we have to wait and see. Wait… that was my other question. My life is falling apart before me… I’ll think of something incredibly awesome and STILL WOW THEM.

Next we talk about character designs, and Cheetara’s breasts. No, seriously. Larry had a lot to say on that subject. Color’s that were changed was done to make them have more indivuality. A lot of the original character’s basic designs are still present, just updated.

Clancy Brown and Robin Atkins are announced as the voices of Grune, and Mumm-Ra respectively.

Finally, my chance to shine. I ask the ground breaking question in my nerdiest moment in history “So, I noticed the Thunderkittens have tails… why is that?” Yeah… that was the best I could come up with. However, the answer was great and quite in depth (Video later) I was told that they were looking to design different cat species with different qualities. Some will have tails for example. Another thing I was also told that the executive producer wants them to act as cat like as possible when the opportunity presents it’s self. Things such as hissing will be present in these Thundercats from time to time. Also noted that they no longer look like men wearing cat like face paint, but rather a race of cat people. (Which has been my biggest issue with the series since I was a child. I should also point out that may have been actually in response to a different question, but you’ll have to forgive me. It’s currently 1 AM as I type this, and I’m rather sleep deprived after a long day.) I was about to ask about the Twins race, and If they are adult cats fully grown just small, or actual children when I heard “One more question after this one” and I didn’t want to steal someone else’s time.

The final question was asked by a guy wearing a “WINNING!” T-Shirt and an afro. Called himself “Afro Sheen” really hilarious guy. I talked to him for a bit while waiting for our turns to ask questions.

Great question by him. He asks about the Anointment Trials of Lion O and if they would appear in this series, he also asks if the second season Cats will make appearance. “Yes, Yes and Yes.” was the answer. We were basically told that the series even begins with Lion O’s trials, and we’ll see him face off against the other Thundercats in these trials. (Flash backs to the trailer anyone?)

That was the final question of the panel, they thanked us for coming and left the stage. All in all a great Panel, easily worth the trip to San Francisco alone.[/LEFT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrfbbXsEqA0

He always struck me as being like the strong quiet guy in the back office that doesn’t get out much and was a bit sheltered, has a lot to offer but no real idea how to socialize properly. Kind of like a high-functioning autistic.

Just saw the video. I’m even more excited now, with every bit of news revealed I want this show to start sooner.

So Tygra is adopted! And Bengali and the others will most likely appear somehow. Hmm, Bengali could possibly be used to reveal a bit more on Tygra’s background and origin.

And I’m definetly looking forward to the rivalry Lion-O and Tygra may have. They are brothers, adopted or not, brothers do fight. I’ll lol if the kittens show a better sibling example than the leaders of the group. xD

Thanks for the transcription Astrokreep.

Nice they want to “individualize” each cat, giving some of them tails and such,a dn that they want the TCs to act more like cats (although -and I’m not biased here- I think Tygra was the one to act most as a cat in the original series: how he moved and jumped, climbed trees, sometimes he even hissed/roar as a tiger when he was upset).

And I’m really afraid they could kill him (Tygra) in the last ep, or close to it, as a way for him to “give his blessings” to Lion-O in his bed of death after all their arguments adn rivalry. Hope that doesn’t cross their minds.

Please no. From the characters we’ve seen, Tygra seems like the one with the most potential as a character. His conflicts, background and relationships are sure to keep us entertained. It’d be a tragedy if they pulled that. :frowning:

MTV has posted a few more interviews.

Larry Kenny http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/640276/wondercon-2011-larry-kenney-talks-thundercats-claudus.jhtml

Michael Jelenics http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/640278/wondercon-2011-michael-jelenics-thundercats-teases.jhtml

Dan Norton http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/640275/wondercon-2011-dan-norton-talks-thundercats-character-designs.jhtml

Ethan Spaulding http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/640272/wondercon-2011-ethan-spaulding-on-why-the-time-is-right-for-thundercats.jhtml

I clicked on the options below that have all four videos listed.

Pretty much what they covered in the panel. Mr. Norton obviously is the most excited about it. Lol.

It’s about damn time we got an actual story flowing animated series on TV. And this guys seem to know what they’re doing.

Now..we just need to hear from their “boss”, Sam Register.