Watermarking question! (a.k.a., potential for more comic production material!) :)

Hi all,

Apologies for keep bombarding these Boards with comic material-related threads. :frowning: However, this is one thing I’d really welcome your input on! :slight_smile:

Searching the Internet for ThunderCats comic material, I stumbled upon a website called http://www.comicartcommunity.com. They have hosted a wealth of beautiful (all Wildstorm) ThunderCats artwork, mainly completed covers pre-logo/barcode/image cropping/etc. Go to their “Gallery” section and do a search for “thundercats”, and prepare to be amazed! :slight_smile:

I spoke to the webmaster of the site, Terry (who I assume is a male Terry rather than female, based on the spelling, even though he has a female avatar on that site’s message board!), and he informed me that none of that material is copyrighted to him, his site just hosts the images and that the copyright belongs to the artist and/or owner of the pieces hosted.

To start with I found he was rather off with me, and he reacted very badly to one thing I said, which was when I told him that we watermark all images to prevent image theft. He stated, “Being brutally honest - that’s pretty crappy (IMHO). I don’t watermark those images - because they’re not mine. Ask the copyright holder and/or artist for permission to watermark. But be prepared, they may not like the idea either. :)” I then talked my way out of that, by stating that “please don’t misunderstand, we’re all of us at TCL.org happy to leave images with no watermark, in fact in an ideal world I for one would actually prefer it! :slight_smile: However, I know from personal experience that some people become concerned about images from their personal collections being showcased online without some form of marking to prevent it being downloaded and used elsewhere without their permission. However, please be assured that if someone dislikes the idea, we are more than cool with the concept of not using watermarks - thank you for drawing this to my attention! :)”

…After which, he was eating out of my hand, even suggesting we advertise this site through his (although I’m not sure what he had in mind with that)! :slight_smile:

However, before approaching any of the owners of these pieces of comic art, I thought I should gauge opinion and ask whether you guys are comfortable with the concept of us showcasing images on this site that are not watermarked (obviously at the owners’ own risk, even though we’d need to find a gentler way of putting that! ;))? Also, do you think for some of these pieces that we could theoretically, if requested, come up with a slightly more understated watermark (such as putting www.thundercatslair.org in one corner)? What do you guys think? I’d very much welcome your input here - many thanks! :slight_smile:

Take care for now, guys, and speak to you all soon! :slight_smile:

The watermarks are not really about ownership of the pieces themselves. They are watermarked for ownership of the scans and pictures, so the images are not misused. For example on Ebay, sellers might use our images to sell their items rather than taking pics of the actual item buyer will receive.

Copyright is a bad word to use in this situation because we are not trying to say we own the item and have any kind of right over it. What we are doing is saying we own that particular scan/pic of that item, which stands to sense if your the person who uses your own time to take pictures and make scans.

In this case if your borrowing other peoples images, then I’d say they don’t need a watermark. A watermark would be up to the contributor to put their own watermark on their image before sending it to us.

Some images I’ve got from outsiders were exclusively given to me such as the Argos pages, so I regard them as our images (since they were actually given and not loaned to me) and those will receive a Thundercatslair.org watermark.

Chris here…

That makes a lot of sense, Neil, thanks for clarifying that for me! :slight_smile: So, in your opinion it would be cool for me to say to any potential contributors of comic production material that we would be happy to watermark images to prevent image theft if they liked, but not if they prefer? :slight_smile:

I’ll start chasing up some more material ASAP then! :slight_smile: BTW, I don’t know if you’ve had chance to check your PMs yet, but I sent you one regarding the eBay seller I was needing to get in contact with - please can you LMK what you think of the message I’ve written? Many thanks! :slight_smile:

Take care… :slight_smile:

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BTW, I don’t know if you’ve had chance to check your PMs yet, but I sent you one regarding the eBay seller I was needing to get in contact with - please can you LMK what you think of the message I’ve written? Many thanks! :slight_smile:

Take care… :slight_smile:
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Got the pm and replied Chris. Will let you know his response as soon as he gets back to me :slight_smile:

Chris here…

PM received a-ok - many thanks for your help as always, Neil! :slight_smile:

Take care… :slight_smile: