If it had decent animation and story telling I would be all for it.
Why couldn’t we have got a Thundercats show with animation something like Justice League Action. Yes it’s slightly more simplified to the Justice League 2001 series and the more recent direct to DVD movies etc but it’s still similar, well done and proportioned and not to different to the 2001 series.
https://www.dccomics.com/sites/default/files/GalleryMovies_1920x1080_JusticeLeagueAction04_58531d61375929.76227350.jpg
obviously a man with a manbun wasn’t behind the production of this show.
just think of all the cool cat-themed songs if the rock band concept did get greenlit: Cat Scratch Fever by Ted Nugent, Cat’s in the Cradle by Harry Chapin - cover by Ugly Kid Joe, Cool Cat by Queen.
I admire your sentiments and will endorse them as I share similar point of view even if I criticize the object of discussion. Thundercats '85 has always held a special place in my heart, it’s a series that truly sparks the imagination and embarks us on a fun journey with colourful characters. Regardless of what succeeds it, it will always exist as it is for us fans to enjoy even if it hasn’t aged well, it still has a certain charm to it.
Now I am the kind of person who enjoys all sorts of humor; Family Guy, Rick and Morty, and South Park to name a few, and to that fact I will be giving this show a chance because I don’t mind parodies. However, to illuminate your last question, this does in fact has potential to damage the brand. Firstly reinforcing your point about Thundercats’ position, this is not a property that enjoys same treatment as the holy trinity or even TMNT, in that you won’t see it reinterpreted or rebooted as often. So bearing that in mind we can safely say there is a certain scarcity of Thundercats. Which I believe lends the property to being held as more precious by many. When something like this comes along, and knowing the position of this property, it certainly hurts when after nearly two decades we had a serious take on Thundercats but it was cancelled due to CN’s idiocy and this marks the second go at the franchise albeit in form of a comedy. This is extremely sad and unfortunate when we all know that Thundercats mythology is full of untapped potential that could very well be written as the new Lord of the Rings if properly handled.
Supposing this does fare well, the new image of the Thundercats might not be taken seriously as it can be in the future because comedic aspects/ wackiness will be the safer bet. If it fails, well then Thundercats get shelved again, who knows. Take TMNT, beginning with source material, it was a dark and gritty comic but it was turned into a wacky show which for all intents and purposes was a hit. However, we’ve never have had a true to the source series, the wackiness has kind of endured ever since. The 2003 series tried to bring the seriousness into the franchise but it never quite got there. The point is it makes me fearful that this may be a huge gamble with the Thundercats even if we go by the old adage; any publicity is good publicity, and that the silliness might get carried on into the future projects.
If Thundercats had the same first rate position as that of Transformers for example, and this was say a 5-6th take on the series I would have welcomed it with open arms. As it stands now, I wish it’d have been a potential fulfilling adaption of the brand. Nonetheless I’ll be checking it out. I only hope the future of Thundercats is brighter.
My biggest issue is in the future because of this if you mention thundercats to someone, someone younger they will most likely say “thundercats? Oh that funny show with lion-o and his magic slicey stick and mumm-ra reading the news paper on the toilet. It’s so funny!”
I refuse to even acknowledge that things a man bun. It’s just an utter failure. It’s not a man bun, a top knot, an under shave or even a high pony tail. It’s just a normal haircut that is a little longer at the top he has tied up for some reason.
I think who ever was behind Justice League Action had at least some knowledge of artistic drawing skills.
To think the original Thundercats was produced by the company and artists that went onto become Studio Ghibli, one of the finest animation companies ever, and someone at WB actually approved these abominations that look like something a 6 year old would draw.
It’s the equivalent of the Family Guy animation team re-making Spirited Away in their style with awful humour like those awful Seth Macfarlane shows.
I don’t care what it’s called it makes him look like a sissy.
As I ave pointed out I am a very recent fan. since only 2016. I came across it due to curiosity and a slightly different impression due to an old music video featuring the villains from 80s cartoons. I honestly thought the show was much darker than it really is. That being said I being a new fan feel insulted by the new way it’s going. Unlike say transformers animated which had a weird focus on big chins and the style was more teen titan the plotline of the actual show was actually pretty dark with plenty of nods and mythology gags to previous series. However transformers animated wasn’t exactly pitched as a comedy was it?
My impression of the new show aside from it being insulting, and rather ugly to look at, will probably feature a lot of screaming an random yelling with much arm flailing. I wouldn’t be surprised considering who’s behind the show and the way the creators are treating anyone who dislikes it as man children who hate new things, while openly mocking them and showing outright contempt for them.
Transformers Animated was a great show with really likeable interesting characters.
These guys working on Thundercats Roar will just react the same way Disney and Lucas film reacted to Star Wars fans. They will blame the fans rather than admit they messed up trying to make movies they like to voice their opinions rather than make proper movies for the franchise.
Guys honestly. Critique the show all you want. I’m not a fan of the way it looks myself. But attacking someone’s looks just because you don’t agree with the show he’s making is just childish and petty. Grow up.
That haircut would have got mentioned regardless of the quality of the show.
well his hairdo is an insult to men everywhere.
Everyone. I highly advise you watch this video by LioConvoy. He makes some very good points. And he asks all of you to contact Victor Courtright with constructive criticism and why you hate the reboot. Dont threaten him.
Why?! Don’t tell me you actually admire his look!!?:eek: :eek::eek:
If the exact same guy created something like this instead, none would even notice his hairdo.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/fd/0f/83/fd0f8307954c03c5df843bde02c57afe--nerd-room-thundercats.jpg
Or this…
This is the treatment the show deserves but those in power don’t get.
The more I think about this, the more I don’t like it. And the trailer is not even funny. Seems desperate. Could be a serious nail in the coffin for us.
I can’t say a thing. I wore a Changes ThunderCats football jersey to a wedding…and I was the Maid of Honor. (I mean the wedding was sort of kind of hockey themed, but an entire family of homeless Snarfs could live in it, I stuck out, and it remains the tackiest piece of clothing I proudly own. You know… I dream of wearing that glorious thing to my own funeral, that’ll show 'em)
Also, I’d like to add…I said in an earlier post that I didn’t like the look of the Thundercats Roar characters’ designs. I swear on The Eye that I wasn’t making jest of the writing in Adventure Time, Rick and Morty, or Steven Universe…these are great shows with interesting plots all their own.
That being said, and playing Devil’s Advocate with a few pieces missing…
I realize that animation houses have to cut corners at times to just finish a production, sometimes their hands are forced, and they have make hard decisions for the good of production. I’ll use it as an example again, The Legend of Korra, they had to cut corners and do a clip show in the middle of the last season, Book Four, Balance, so that they wouldn’t have to cut some of the production staff loose because of funding. Something that is unproven like ThunderCats Roar, a big honking digression from the source material, at least ascetically, and is a serious gamble, especially after the unwarranted failure of the 2011 restart. With that being said, I can see them not giving it the full Studio Mir/Ghibli treatment. They tried to and succeeded in producing some spectacular animation for the 2011 series, it just didn’t work out, sadly.
To my point I’ve been trying to get to about the characters’ look, and Lord have mercy on you and thank you for slogging through all that…
You know, if this were an absolutely new look for animation that no one never ever tried before, we could maybe try to give a pass and say, “Well, hey, this is different, I will reserve judgment..”
But…
Honest to goodness, every one of these franchises on Cartoon Network, Steven Universe, Adventure Time (to a lesser extent), and even Disney’s Gravity Falls… the makeup of the character art across the board on the “kiddie geared” channels are all the same. You can literally take a “human looking” character from any of these franchises, superimpose different looks like hair and facial features on them, and you’d have the same (genre?) as all the other shows.
What I’m saying, is yes, try something new, but let be something truly new.
So thank you again for your time, true believers, may the Eye protect you.
well they could have at least made cheetara look like a woman. she looks like a dude in that design, especially with those eyebrows and that haircut. Also the fact she looks flat as a board and has man hips.
One interesting quote in that video is Courtright saying “This is the ThunderCats show I want…” It is not about what YOU want; it is about what concepts work for the franchise.
The way WB treats TC reminds me of the Aesop Fable “The Dog In the Manger”: it could let another studio handle the property and would likely get better results, but they decide to keep it for themselves, even though they do not really know what to do with it.
I’m still confused by the negative reactions to Thundercats Roar… but reading this thread has helped me gain some clarity.
You might not like the show, and that’s fine. But if you’re intent on preemptively not liking it, I’d like you to not like it for the right reasons. So here are a few important pieces missing from the discussion:
This is not a parody, nor is it a mean-spirited mockery. It’s intentions are pure comedy.
Victor Courtright is incredibly talented. He’s also really funny, a HUGE fan of the original series, and a genuinely great person.
The intro/outro animation of Lion-O introducing the BTS footage and OP title sequence, was done by ONE very talented animator… over the course of ONE last-minute weekend rush… in a valiant attempt to present the show in the funnest way possible, given the time constraints. That animation is beyond incredible, considering the normal timeline for modern production animation. And that animator was Victor Courtright… a talented, great person.
This IP is in very capable hands. Rest assured that it will resonate deeply with today’s kids, breathing new life into the property.
Larry Kenny was laughing out loud reviewing his lines for this show… then nailed them immediately with PERFECT comedic timing. (Victor Courtright wrote those lines. He’s funny and talented)