Movies/TV shows we've come to associate the reboot with

Cartoons ThunderCats (2011)
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I realize it might seem like i’m just creating sporadic discussion threads, but i have a lot of things to get off chest with this show.

This thread, like the title says, is about pointing out movies and/or TV shows that we’ve come to associate with Thundercats 2011. I’ve often fantasized about connections between this show and various movies and TV shows that i’ve seen in the past. Just in case i wasn’t the only one, i made this thread to point out the shows/movies that we associate with the 2011 reboot and discuss why we associate them with Thundercats.

For me:

Lion King: Duh, for obvious reasons

Prince of Egypt: I just feel like the song “When you believe” and the basic ending of that movie fit well with TCats 2011

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I wanna hear your opinion on Lion King. Other than having a male Lion and a “cub”. What´s the other similarities?

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…:eek:

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I noticed tons of Star Wars references.

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It is basically Avatar with cat people. All I know is they should have lost the other references and stuck more closely to the OS.

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Eh, I would say Avatar had about 10x the mythology and humor to it. The reboot was much more of a fantasy show as well while Avatar is more of an adventure/action show. There are influences definitely, but considering it does have some of the same staff that’s not surprising.

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[FONT=Verdana]1. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Lion-O’s outfit looks like Cloud Strife of FF7[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]2. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Tygra’s outfit looks like Master Chief from the Halo Series.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]3. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Panthro looked like the love child of Hellboy and Jet Black.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]4. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Pumyra’s look = Paine from FFX-2[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]5. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Ramlak Rising = Moby Dick[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]6. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The ThunderTank bikes that were used only once were copies of the lightcycles featured in the Tron franchise.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]7. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Panthro’s GoGo Gadget arms just screamed Inspector Gadget/Plastic-Man[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]8. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]More Star Wars “borrowing” than even Lucas knew what to do with.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]9. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Lot’s of Superman elements peppered throughout the series.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]10. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The Pit = Gladiator.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]11. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Forever Bag = Bag of Magical Holding out of D&D. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]12. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The names Addicus and Vultaire are plays on the name Atticus and Voltaire – both philosophers[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]13. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Hattanzo the Drifter = a combination of Usagi Yojimbo (the TMNT samurai Hare) and Yojimbo/The Man With No Name trilogy[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]14. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Panthro dead, Panthro alive, Panthro the killer of a King, not really Panthro but Mumm-Ra, Panthro still dead, Panthro is now alive is obviously a nod to M. Night Salamander’s “What a twist!” style.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]15. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]El Dara the City of Gold = El Dorado/Mysterious Cities of Gold[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]16. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Mumm-Ra’s RFD dinosaur-titan = Godzilla/Digimon[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]17. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Lucy = Mothra/Pokemon[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]18. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Ponzi = the snail racer from Neverending Story[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]19. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Ponzi = Ponzi Scheme [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]20. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Slithe’s gunblade is out of Battle Engine Aquila. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]21. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Jaga and Gandalf from Lord of the Rings series could be off species brothers.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]22. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Tygra’s second attempt to kill Lion-O - where he kicks him into the chasm in the Astral Plane is right out of the movie 300.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]23. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Vultaire is a carbon copy of a Skeksis from the film The Dark Crystal.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]24. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The Drifter Hattanzo is a reference to Hattori Hanzo. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]25. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Disney’s [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The Lion King[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] was heavily used.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]26. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The traps the ThunderCats encounter in “Journey to the Tower of Omens” are right out of [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Indiana Jones [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]27. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Cheetara’s avoiding the traps in Journey was very similar to Catherine Zeta-Jones’ role in the film Entrapment.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]28. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Stone Striking scene from The Duelist and the Drifter was a mirror of the Trial by Stone featured in the film The Dark Crystal [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]29. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The Trials Labyrinth Lion-O had to maneuver was a mirror of Jim Henson’ss Labyrinth [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]30. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Like Terra’s betrayal of the Teen Titans, so to did you Pumyra.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]31. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Leo = Asch from Tales of the Abyss[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]32. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The Eye of Thundera power blast = Dragon Ball/ Street Fighter [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]33. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Oliver Twist = Forever Bag [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]34. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Frankenstein = Soul Sever [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]35. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Biblical story of Moses = Native Son. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]36. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Stones of Power = The Thirteen Treasures of Rule, from Pirates of Dark Water[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]37. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Viragor = The Great Owl from the Secret of Nimh [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]38. Lion-O and Tygra = Hercules and Iphicles from Greek mythology.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]39. Dog City = Thunderdome from the Mad Max franchise[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]40. A very Arthurian Tales feel to much of Thundercats[/FONT]
41. Twilight style love triangle complete with "teams’
42. Predator sound and visual effects during Soul Sever
43. Akira/Tetsuo the Iron Man - Tygra’s mech morphing during Soul Sever
44. Sight Beyond Sight featured a RockBiter out of Neverending Story

Wow, that’s over 40 already. Okay, I’ll pause there.

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WOW, you have really thought this out.:thumbsup:

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Oh! Oh! I wanna try!

Panthro pose after trying to save Grune, but losing his arms where it was an underhead shot, that scene looked a lot like the scene from DBZ of Piccolo battling…who was it? Radditz? He battles him and loses his arms?

Then Panthro gaining arms that expand and retract…sorry guys, but it reminded me so much of Luffy from One Piece.

Lion-o’s eyes are made of Mako energy! I swear, I fangirled out when I first saw the character design. So, agreed.

Dude, I can’t believe no MOTU puns or hints in the series.

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Most were glaringly obvious to me as I watched the episodes. Others were found across the net.

What is actually very funny to me is that when the series was in syndication, if a person pointed out that Lion-O’s armor was a carbon copy clone of Cloud’s or that Tygra and Master Chief shopped the same armor retailer, or that Jet Black and Hellboy did the nasty to concieve Panthro, or any of the other obvious theme grabs done by the Crew of Omens, there was a handful who would just scream, yell, and throw the most immature of fits claiming every instance brought up was just a random coincidence.

Guess that’s why I didn’t get all that upset with LEGO: Legends of Chima. I can’t fault it for being more Thundercatty than the reboot was.

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Listen, this is what every artist does, including me, who do this stuff for money. There are gray areas, and then there are people who borrow WAY~ too much from something that’s been made of money. We use references and draw inspiration from writings, movies, anime, and cook them in a extraverted intuitive pot and VOILA, we get this or that thing. Great masters in the past (and I’m talking fine artists in general) have done this before. Some do become more original than others. Andy Warhol is a good example with his Cambell’s soup cans and his Marilyn Monroe shots. But as far as entertainment and media is concerned…yes, people get lazy and borrow way too much stuff. That isn’t always a bad thing. I mean we can say Avatar: TLA–elements of nature, anime style, and martial arts has been beaten to death by the media, but it was a good series, no? Transformers, G1 Arcee’s head style was based on Princess Leia from Star Wars; okay bad example. Generator Rex, obviously Agent Six was based off of Agent Smith from the Matrix, and Noah…well, this is where I call foul to the MoA for using basically the SAME character design from the Silent Hill video game. Still, a fun show to watch, imo. I do believe the crew did draw inspiration from lots of sources, heck I don’t mind the Arthurian theme around the NS, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing because it was many different sources. Legend of Chima is too heavily based on NS Thundercats, which is why I call foul (art theft) on CN and Legos for doing that.

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Are you kidding me? It’s more of the reboot than the reboot itself! (if that makes sense)

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I’ve said this many times before in the past, but the TV show I always associated - or more accurately, compared - the TCats 2011 reboot with was Battlestar Galactica. If I never clearly explained why, here goes…

The original BSG was a product of the 1970’s. It was regarded as little more than a way for a TV network to ride the Star Wars bandwagon that was sweeping the country at that time. Steeped in tropes of Ancient Astronauts with a slight hint of Mormonism on the side (creator Glen Larson was a member of the LDS church), it was pretty lightweight, weekly TV space opera that was fun to watch, but ultimately didn’t have much else to say.

The original TCats was a product of the 1980’s. A way for another toy company to cash in on the He-Man bandwagon by making their own 30-minute-long toy commerical. It paid lip-service to Star Wars as well as J.R.R. Tolkien and King Arthur, but ultimately had no underlying, bigger message. Instead it was content to deliver ham-handed morals much like other kids TV shows at the time did.

Fast forward 30 years. When BSG was being re-imagined, Ron Moore saw the potential that the original had and decided to take advantage of it. And he brought all those underlying themes and subtexts to the forefront. As the basic premise dealt with the near-destruction of humanity, the show became significantly darker. He also used the show to address the issues of the day like terrorism, 9/11, the invasion and occupation of Iraq, Abu Ghraib and others (probably too much for its own good). Fans were divided, but those who did like the new version loved it passionately. And whther you loved it or hated it, it can;t be argues that BSG ended up bieng one of the most memorable Science Fiction shows in the past 10 years.

Like Ron Moore, Dan Norton saw the potential for Thundercats to be the truly epic series that it always could have been with a sweeping scope and an ongoing story arc. He embraced that idea and ran with it. Compred to the original, which was light and campy, the new version was significantly darker and serious. As with BSG, fans were divided, but those that liked it loved it very passionately. It was certainly one of the more ambitious animated shows on TV at the time, which is why it was so fondly remembered.

So that’s how I always regarded the show. Don’t know if it holds up under scrutiny, but that’s always been my take on it.

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My comparison to MOTU is that the remake didn’t go as far as the original storywise. It should have gone for a second season so that all the plot threads could be tied up and we’d see how Bengali was re-imagined. :mad:

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Lol, yes it does make sense.

Hate to say it but I think that is exactly why WB decided to go with Chima over another season of the reboot.

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Because the merchandise for Chima will sell better than any action figures would ever do. Legos are something that will never go away. What they should have done is made some deal with ThunderCats and just made the toys for them Lego. That would have been fantastic, but I’m not sure if that’s 100% possible.

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So does this mean Chima is worth watching?

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Between the sub-par dialogue, laughable pacing, unmemorable characters, and a rather contrived plot…I’d say pass on this one.

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I watch the first episode to see why this show replace thundercats. Trust me its worst than ninjago. I kept scrubbing my eyes to get rid of filth i just seen.

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all i can say is that, this show’s target demographic is aimed at toddlers/very young children. also any thundercats fans looking to fill the hole that the new series left, should stay away from this series. it wouldn’t do you any good besides **** most of you guys off like it did me.