Movie Club Week 3 - First Blood (Rambo)

WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE THIRD DISCUSSION THREAD OF THE NEW MOVIE CLUB, DESIGNED TO RUN PARALLEL WITH R.O.C.K.S.
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This week’s film, picked by Mark M, is First Blood, the first in the Rambo series. (At the time of writing this I’ve never actually seen it myself).

Remember any ideas for films to discuss are most welcome, and should be made on the Movie Club Introduction thread (the sticky one).

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I’ve seen that film once when it was syndicated in the '90s. It was pretty engaging, and Sylvester Stallone nailed the John Rambo character well.

Well, I’ve just seen this film for the first time ever, and all I can say is, wow.

The character of Rambo is fascinating. Potentially lethal but still deserving of our sympathy. On that basis it’s possible to make a comparison here between him and Norman Bates (as played so beautifully by Anthony Perkins in Alfred Hitchcock’s original 1960 classic). That said, before anyone points the finger, I should clarify that unlike Bates, whose actions are somewhat random, Rambo’s abnormal behaviour is triggered entirely by the mistreatment he receives from the sheriff and the police. He’s a war veteran, he has grizzly memories of being attacked, tortured and threatened, and reacts to the police’s hostility in the only way he knows how. His fight and flight reflexes are operating to their fullest extent. It’s all about survival. Interestingly though, Rambo is not directly responsible for any deaths in the course of the film (well, no human deaths, there’s the dogs but it was kill or be killed there, and he kills a wild boar for food). He nearly kills the sheriff at the end, but his commanding officer steps in at the last moment and “talks him down” as it were.

That brings me onto the one thing that didn’t quite work for me. The speech at the end - while it’s very emotional and I do feel sympathy for the character, I felt Stallone could have been a little more coherent with his delivery of it. (Maybe it’s just Stallone’s natural way of talking, I don’t know, I haven’t seen anything else of his.)

The action sequences remained tense throughout. His escape from the mine is particularly engaging. You know he’s onto something but you’re not entirely sure what, until we see the ladder.

One thing that definitely gets 10/10 from me on this film is the music. Funny, from the first few bars of that opening theme, I recognised the sound of Jerry Goldsmith, a truly great film composer, responsible for no less than five Star Trek film scores, as well as the themes for TNG and Voyager. Coincidentally, another film he scored was Breakheart Pass - which also starred Richard Crenna.

Another coincidence I noticed was the year of the film, 1982, this film about a veteran of the Vietnam war came out in the same year as Billy Joel’s utterly stunning Vietnam song “Goodnight Saigon”. If you’ve never heard that song, listen. It’s brilliant.

Also a fun thing was the fact that is was around christmas time, as referenced by the decorations, but I don’t think there was a single allusion to it in the dialogue.

Overall? Yes, I enjoyed this film considerably. Not the sort of thing I’d watch time and time again, but it was definitely good. Draining, but good.

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Glad you liked it Liam. I know it’s not the sort of film would regularly watch but thought you would enjoy.

I grew up with vague memories of Rambo 2 and had a an action figure inspired by the character, Acamas’ X-Force Lieutenant Sterne Strongbo, not an official Coleco figure based on the Rambo and Forces of Freedom cartoon. Coincidently during my research of the Rambo toyline it broke 80’s tradition like so many other lines and made the main female cast member.

I didn’t get to see the Rambo movies properly until 96 when I was 11. I seen 2 first then 1 and 3. 2 is a great action movie and 3 is very fun but overall 1 is technically the best.

I love the small town and forest setting and Rambo’s guerrilla warfare tactics.

The flash back scene in the jail and his escape is probably my favourite scene.

Fun little fact during the scene when Rambo is falling through the trees Sylvester insisted on doing part of that stunt. When you hear him shout in pain it is real as he actually broke a rid or to doing the stunt.

Some of his 70’s, 80’s and early 90’s movies are well worth checking out Liam. I can’t believe you haven’t seen Rocky. :smiley: That is also a must watch along with some of its sequels. :wink:

As a huge Stallone fan since childhood, I can probably fill pages with my thoughts of this movie. But I’ll keep it short for now. :slight_smile:

“First Blood” is a great character study of Rambo, the man. The sequels ended up focusing more and more on action and didn’t bother adding more to the character himself. We can really relate to the character and understand the reasons for his actions.

The other actors are very good too and do full justice to their characters. I wonder if folks noticed a young David Caruso (CSI: Miami) as one of the Sheriff’s men.

The action sequences are great, be it the motorcycle chase, the cliff jump, or the jungle man-hunt. Stallone give a very good performance, arguably one of the best of his career. This movie was before he became a stereotypical action hero. We can really see his vulnerable side.

As Liam pointed out, the music is incredible. I’ve always been a huge admirer of Jerry Goldsmith. The man has such an amazing variety.

As far as action movies dialogues go, it doesn’t get any better than what Col. Trautman tells the Sheriff: “I don’t think you understand. I didn’t come to rescue Rambo from you. I came here to rescue you from him.”

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That line reminds me of what Lion-o said to Demolisher, about not calling his friends to help himself but to help him.
Although a more appropriate and reference it reminds me of is in a G.I Joe comic in which Snake Eyes blocks the entrance and exits to a Cobra building and is killing every cobra trooper in his path to which The Baroness watching on the view screen says ‘‘you fools he isn’t, trying to escape he’s sealing us in. We are the ones who are being hunted’’. It’s been a few years since I read that comic so I might have misquoted it a little but you get the idea lol.

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As a child of the 80s I grew up to Stallone movies as well as other action stars be it van Damme, Arnold, Norris, and even underrated action actor Carl weathers. But get back to Rambo.
I first saw this probably age 5. I love how he depicts a veteran and nails the whole ptsd flashbacks. shows how some actions can trigger an episode. action scenes were almost nonstop for me. when walking to town and the sheriff tries to show him out of town just because he looks different shows how we as people tend to be towards people we don’t fully understand. it actually showed that you can’t treat others like crap or they might pull a Rambo on you. lmao…score was great. I absolutely love Jerry’s innovation to do the proper score to fit everything he has done. when it’s an intense to a emotional scene his score nails the part.

We’ll let that’s my 2 cents

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